14 Oct
2013
14 Oct
'13
2:25 p.m.
Hmm, I have a pair of Mac SE's here, and was a bit surprised to find that
one of them has signatures in the rear of the case, but the other one
doesn't; does anyone know what dictated whether a machine had the
signatures or not? (I was actually surprised to see signatures at all, I
thought that went out with earlier models)
Anyway, the one with signatures is a SE with a single 800K drive and 20HSC
hard disk, last IC date I can see week 25 of 1988. There's also a sticker
on the chassis saying July 30th 1988.
The one without is a SE with dual 800K drives and a Quantum drive on a
bracket (which was possibly added later), last IC date I can see being week
01 of 1988.
In other words, what seems to be the later machine has them, and the
earlier one doesn't. Possibly cases from different plants, where one had
changed their tooling and one hadn't? Or maybe the "later" machine is
actually an earlier build but has had a system board replacement (with the
date sticker being the date of repair)?
Curious, anyway...
cheers
Jules
14 Oct
14 Oct
2:45 p.m.
On Oct 14, 2013, at 5:25 PM, Jules Richardson <jules.richardson99 at gmail.com>
wrote:
In other words, what seems to be the later machine has
them, and the earlier one doesn't. Possibly cases from different plants, where one had
changed their tooling and one hadn't? Or maybe the "later" machine is
actually an earlier build but has had a system board replacement (with the date sticker
being the date of repair)?
It doesn't directly, thoroughly answer your question, but this story from
Andy Hertzfeld's folklore.org does at least give some partial detail (for
one thing, it sounds like they gradually removed them until they got the
boot altogether, presumably at some date, though your "different factory"
theory sounds quite likely as well):
http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=Signing_Party.txt
- Dave
3:47 p.m.
On 10/14/2013 04:45 PM, David Riley wrote:
On Oct 14, 2013, at 5:25 PM, Jules Richardson
<jules.richardson99 at gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks! I do have a 1MB Plus, too, so I just popped the case on that one.
There are quite a few signatures missing on both the (1MB) Plus and the SE
compared to the list in the above link - most of the names on the left hand
side - just as the article says.
On the Plus (and not present on the SE) there's what might be a "JR" -
perhaps Jef Raskin as a signature matching his in the above link isn't on
either case?
On the SE there's actually an added signature in the top-left; looks like
it ends in 'ling' but I can't make out the first few letters. It's
interesting that someone saw fit to add their name on there long after the
original Mac had come and gone :)
Both the Plus and the signed SE case say "Rawall engravers incorporated
mold texturing" and "Deluxe, Elmhust, Illinois", with the Plus case saying
"tool no. 2" and the SE case saying "tool no. 4". The unsigned SE
case
doesn't say anything about who made it (it just has an identical Apple p/n
to the signed SE case)
cheers
Jules
In other words, what seems to be the later
machine has them, and the earlier one doesn't. Possibly cases from different plants,
where one had changed their tooling and one hadn't? Or maybe the "later"
machine is actually an earlier build but has had a system board replacement (with the date
sticker being the date of repair)?
It doesn't directly, thoroughly answer your question, but this story from
Andy Hertzfeld's folklore.org does at least give some partial detail (for
one thing, it sounds like they gradually removed them until they got the
boot altogether, presumably at some date, though your "different factory"
theory sounds quite likely as well):
http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=Signing_Party.txt
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