11 Jun
2002
11 Jun
'02
11:14 p.m.
A _very_ good day, actually. For $40 I picked up:
Apple IIe in pretty bad shape, but with DuoDisk & interface card,
SuperSerial card, and paddles.
ROM3 Apple IIgs with SCSI card.
TI-99 Expansion interface with 2 drives, RS-232 interface, and third-party
128K memory module, plus TI Extended BASIC, MultiPlan, Editor/Assembler,
Disk Manager II, and more.
And the TI stuff was in an old Apple box, for either a II+, IIe, or IIc, I
think. All it says besides "Apple" is: "The Personal Computer" in an
80s-purple-neon mall-shop-sign style script typeface.
Plus an Apple external 800K drive, some software, and a few other assorted
goodies.
It helped that the extremely nice man at Goodwill let me in the "restricted"
area of his new shop in the GW building. Nobody else gets to go back there,
so nothing had been picked through.
--
Owen Robertson
11 Jun
11 Jun
11:58 p.m.
Owen Robertson wrote:
A _very_ good day, actually. For $40 I picked up:
snip snip
TI-99 Expansion interface with 2 drives, RS-232
interface, and third-party
128K memory module, plus TI Extended BASIC, MultiPlan, Editor/Assembler,
Disk Manager II, and more.
snip snip
It helped that the extremely nice man at Goodwill let
me in the "restricted"
area of his new shop in the GW building. Nobody else gets to go back there,
so nothing had been picked through.
--
Owen Robertson
Nice find, as I have nver seen the TI expansion chassis with the floppy
drive except in pictures. I have a late TI99/4a in a beige case (no
accessories, but has ps/modulator/books) that would like to rejoin some
of its brethren. Interested? $5 +s&h and it is yours. I"ve decided
that I'll never do anything with it, including building a cassette
cable.
Gary Hildebrand
St. Joseph, MO
12 Jun
12 Jun
10:05 a.m.
On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 11:14:52PM -0500, Owen Robertson wrote:
It helped that the extremely nice man at Goodwill let
me in the "restricted"
area of his new shop in the GW building. Nobody else gets to go back there,
so nothing had been picked through.
Is this the Goodwill in Austin? Think I saw the TI stuff in the "as-is" rack
up front last time I was there.
Bill
--
Bill Bradford
mrbill(a)mrbill.net
Austin, TX
3:06 p.m.
New subject: Viking QTO WBUS board
In a recent haul of a pair of QBUS 11/23 systems (thanks to Peter Joules :)
is a Viking QTO card (QBUS Tape Only SCSI controller)
In An Idea World, there is no hardware difference between this board & the
Viking QDO (or QDT/QTD) board and a simple EPROM change would give me a SCSI
MSCP board for my PDP 11/83...
It's not going to happen is it?
Anyone got pointers to manuals, config etc for this VIK/QTO?
ps anyone with a Viking QTO (QDO/QTD?) know what the two big 48pin DIL chips
are?
thanks,
greg
4:20 p.m.
New subject: Viking QTO WBUS board
In An Idea World, there is no hardware difference
between this board & the
Viking QDO (or QDT/QTD) board and a simple EPROM change would give me a SCSI
MSCP board for my PDP 11/83...
It's not going to happen is it?
No, it's not.
Anyone got pointers to manuals, config etc for this
VIK/QTO?
There in here somewhere: ftp://zane.brouhaha.com/pub/dan
Zane
6:55 p.m.
New subject: Viking QTO WBUS board
yupper.. all it is is an Eprom swap... used to have the manuals... dunno if I
still do... Always preferred the CMD SCSI qbus cards myself...
Greg Elkin wrote:
In a recent haul of a pair of QBUS 11/23 systems
(thanks to Peter Joules :)
is a Viking QTO card (QBUS Tape Only SCSI controller)
In An Idea World, there is no hardware difference between this board & the
Viking QDO (or QDT/QTD) board and a simple EPROM change would give me a SCSI
MSCP board for my PDP 11/83...
It's not going to happen is it?
Anyone got pointers to manuals, config etc for this VIK/QTO?
ps anyone with a Viking QTO (QDO/QTD?) know what the two big 48pin DIL chips
are?
thanks,
greg
6:05 p.m.
New subject: Viking QTO QBUS board (was Re: Viking QTO WBUS board)
David Barnes wrote
yupper.. all it is is an Eprom swap...
Excellent! I saw an archive post at http://www.classiccmp.org/mail-
archive/classiccmp/1999-11/1530.html re the Viking QDT / QDO board & it
mentioned the same PCB model/revision as this QTO one which made me hopefull.
Next, I just need to get some kind soul with a QDT/QDO to send me an EPROM
image...
I tried to get the manuals Zane mentioned at ftp://zane.brouhaha.com/pub/dan
but that fails for me when the FTP does PASV to 216.99.199.38. Is it just me?
Always preferred the CMD SCSI qbus cards myself...
If one ever falls my way, I'll be happy too :)
thanks,
greg
6:19 p.m.
New subject: Viking QTO QBUS board (was Re: Viking QTO WBUS board)
On Thu, 2002-06-13 at 00:08, Greg Elkin wrote:
I wrote
You
asked if passive failed. I told you - you never asked if it worked
any other way...
--
Live like you will never die, love like you've never been hurt, dance
like no-one is watching.
that fails for me when the FTP does PASV to
216.99.199.38. Is it just me?
Yes Greg, it is just you. Turn Passive off & it connects just fine.
6:17 p.m.
New subject: Viking QTO QBUS board (was Re: Viking QTO WBUS board)
On Thu, 2002-06-13 at 00:05, Greg Elkin wrote:
What IS it with you and
SCSI?
--
Live like you will never die, love like you've never been hurt, dance
like no-one is watching.
I tried to get the manuals Zane mentioned at
ftp://zane.brouhaha.com/pub/dan
but that fails for me when the FTP does PASV to 216.99.199.38. Is it just me?
It
fails from two physically seperate boxes, when entering pasive mode.
Always preferred the CMD SCSI qbus cards
myself...
If one ever falls my way, I'll be happy too :)
7:36 p.m.
New subject: Viking QTO QBUS board (was Re: Viking QTO WBUS board)
I tried to get the manuals Zane mentioned at
ftp://zane.brouhaha.com/pub/dan
but that fails for me when the FTP does PASV to 216.99.199.38. Is it just me?
BLEEP!!! I've got to figure out what's wrong there. I upgraded to the
latest version of OpenBSD, and for some reason, FTP isn't working quite
right. Some systems can get to it, others can't.
Zane
8:26 p.m.
New subject: Viking QTO QBUS board (was Re: Viking QTO WBUS board)
I will take a look around... I MAY have an eprom... (for that matter an entire
card)
no promises though.. as some memory in my head says I got rid of it long ago...
Greg Elkin wrote:
David Barnes wrote
yupper.. all it is is an Eprom swap...
Excellent! I saw an archive post at http://www.classiccmp.org/mail-
archive/classiccmp/1999-11/1530.html re the Viking QDT / QDO board & it
mentioned the same PCB model/revision as this QTO one which made me hopefull.
Next, I just need to get some kind soul with a QDT/QDO to send me an EPROM
image...
I tried to get the manuals Zane mentioned at ftp://zane.brouhaha.com/pub/dan
but that fails for me when the FTP does PASV to 216.99.199.38. Is it just me?
Always preferred the CMD SCSI qbus cards
myself...
If one ever falls my way, I'll be happy too :)
thanks,
greg
9:10 p.m.
New subject: Viking QTO QBUS board (was Re: Viking QTO WBUS board)
David Barnes wrote
I will take a look around... I MAY have an eprom...
Thanks.
I also need to sort out an address decode PAL if I am to succeed in changing
this QTO to a QDO or better yet a QDT card.
I'm buzzing out the only other socketed chip on the board (a 16L8 PAL) that
is doing the address decode from BBS7, BDAL12-BDAL2 then 4 inputs from
jumpers & providing 1 output to select the Disk CSR/reg & Tape CSR/reg. How
the one select provides for 4 word registers at discontiguous addresses I am
still thinking about...
Then I need to figure out how to blow PALs. Never had the pleasure of doing
that bit of fun yet :)
the two big 48pin devices in the middle of the board would appear to be dual
port rams (1K x 8 each I think from reading the manuals on Zanes site)
Fingers crossed I can get an EPROM image for it.
greg
10:52 a.m.
On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Owen Robertson wrote:
And the TI stuff was in an old Apple box, for either a
II+, IIe, or IIc, I
think. All it says besides "Apple" is: "The Personal Computer" in an
80s-purple-neon mall-shop-sign style script typeface.
It was most likely for either a ][+ or //e. The //c box is glossy and has
the colored Apple logo on it.
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