Oh, I feel the same way. I saw "buy it now" for $9.99 and hit that button immediately! :) What got me was that I had set up a recurring search for "Coherent" on EBay and for months and months, nothing (or things that didn't even relate). Glad I kept it going... Mark On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 5:23 PM, N0body H0me <n0body.h0me at inbox.com> wrote:

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: Dave--- If I can, I will. I *believe* the diskettes are 5-1/4", but the owner/seller wasn't sure. I don't have a machine right now that can accomplish this, but that will hopefully change soon. In other words, I've got machines that can read 5-1/4" diskettes, but none of them can connect to the network right now (either lack of equipment or because they are in storage). Let me see what I can do... Mark

Might it work on Bochs with proper rework of the controller code? It would be great to run it on a simulator, and not have to mess with cranky old museum collection systems. Jim On 7/21/2010 7:45 PM, Jim Leonard wrote:

On 7/21/10, Jim Leonard <trixter at oldskool.org> wrote: Nice. I always find it interesting to learn what present list members were up to in former lives. I'm guessing that it only supports certain MFM controllers, not the WD 1003 then? If I were to take this for a spin, I could probably come up with an Adaptec 1542A (guessing it won't work with a 1542C). Heh... so far, nobody has asked me for COMBOARD support (the last paying customer rolled off support in Jan 1995) but I have picked up a COMBOARD or two from list members (we made 20X as many Unibus boards as Qbus boards, so I'm always interested if someone has a Qbus COMBOARD to send back home - I don't have many). -ethan

On 07/21/2010 08:31 PM, Dave McGuire wrote: I think I have the 3.5" version of this, not sure what version. Not sure if this is the big huge "phonebook" manual, or for which version, but there's a manual here: http://www.tenox.tc/docs/

Nice of them to use Media Mail shipping (only $3). Sometimes you find some cool software and they want $25 for shipping. ----- Original Message ----- From: "N0body H0me" <n0body.h0me at inbox.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 8:23 PM Subject: RE: Coherent 3.1.0... Wow, $10, w/ no competing bidders! It's been a long time since I've been *that* lucky on e-pay! Congrats Mark, awesome find. ____________________________________________________________ Send your photos by email in seconds... TRY FREE IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if3 Works in all emails, instant messengers, blogs, forums and social networks.

On 07/21/2010 11:14 PM, Mark Davidson wrote: I I remember there might be another problem with it. It requires a keytronic(sp?) keyboard as it reprograms the keyboard controller. I remember spending $50 on one just to run Coherent because the cheapo one that came with my 486 didn't work with it. Hopefully BOCHS or whatever emulator you pick to run it on will support that emulation. :) I think I have X11 for this as well somewhere. Hopefully yours has it too.

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On 7/21/2010 8:43 PM, Zane H. Healy wrote: Towards the end of the company, most of our sales were from either SCO developers who wanted to pay $99 for a COFF-binary unix compiler instead of $1200 from SCO, or from new Linux users who wanted the gigantic and awesome Coherent manual. -- Jim Leonard (trixter at oldskool.org) http://www.oldskool.org/ Help our electronic games project: http://www.mobygames.com/ Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/ A child borne of the home computer wars: http://trixter.wordpress.com/

On Wed, 21 Jul 2010, Dan Gahlinger wrote: is the version for 486, that has the large memory model. I happen to have a small collection of coherent on my gopher site, gopher://telefisk.org/coherent regards -- Jacob Dahl Pind | telefisk.org | fidonet 2:237/38.8

Try gopher://telefisk.org/1/coherent <plug class="shameless"> Also, since I can't resist a shameless plug, Gopher protocol support will be disappearing from Mozilla starting with Firefox 4.0/SeaMonkey 2.1. Maintain legacy protocols today! It works with Firefox 3.0 on up and the Fx 4.0 beta. SeaMonkey version coming soon. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7685/ </plug> -- ------------------------------------ personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser at floodgap.com -- NO, I'M NOT AN ELITIST...WHY DO YOU ASK, PEASANT? -- Rusty Spoon -----------

One of my recurrent plans is to sneak gopher support back into cURL, and there is interest from their maintainers. In the meantime, gopher is so simple that something like this will suffice. For arbitrary URL gopher://host/Qpath such as gopher://telefisk.org/00/coherent/ls-lR drop the Q (the itemtype) and include the rest of the path. echo '0/coherent/ls-lR' | nc telefisk.org 70 > ls-lR.txt If the item type is not doubled, such as gopher://gopher.floodgap.com/0/gopher/wbgopher then you can just do echo '/gopher/wbgopher' | nc gopher.floodgap.com 70 > wbgopher.txt And, of course, Lynx does do gopher: lynx -source gopher://gopher.floodgap.com/0/gopher/wbgopher -- ------------------------------------ personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser at floodgap.com -- "I'd love to go out with you, but I'll be at the opening of my garage door."

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 2:18 PM, geoffrey oltmans <oltmansg at bellsouth.net> wrote: No. And? ;)

Besides quite a bit of file archives, which I think would be useful particularly to this group (I maintain personally a big collection of classic Mac software; Jacob has his Amiga and Coherent archives, and lots of other stuff), I use my own gopher server for fast access to news and weather articles that the server collects. No ads, simple text. Gopher is not very good at hypertext, but it is a lot better at collecting documents into coherent hierarchies. While FTP can do this too, it has more overhead and (if improperly configured) security impact, and HTTP doesn't do this natively (such things exist as machinations of the server) besides all the excess with HTTP's overhead. Sure, you could simulate such simplicity with a constrained HTTP implementation, but why bother when Gopher is already a very simple protocol and works well? Gopher is also very compelling on mobile devices, especially bandwidth and screen constrained, which is why I wrote a client for Android. There is also a J2ME client that runs on any phone that can run MIDlets. Plus, damn near anything can parse a gopher menu. It's almost as trivial a format as you get. Gopher's main deficiency is discoverability -- it's hard to navigate back solve this on the client side without disturbing what is a refreshingly simple way to access a server. -- ------------------------------------ personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser at floodgap.com -- Why, I'd horsewhip you if I had a horse! -- Groucho Marx -------------------

The servers out there now typically either use a bespoke implementation, since the protocol is so simple to implement (I believe Jacob's is written in Rexx), or Bucktooth (my Perl implementation) or pygopherd (John Goerzen's python implementation). I imagine also there are a few forgotten sites out there still running UMN gopherd. John did some work on updating the UMN gopher distribution and you can get it from gopher://gopher.quux.org/ Veronica is another thing entirely. There is a local.veronica (search for it in Veronica-2) that you can grab, which is substantially based on the old Veronica crawler code. Veronica-2, on the other hand, I wrote completely environment, which is why I haven't made the source available yet, but it regularly crawls and updates a MySQL database which functions as the backend. It's on gopher://gopher.floodgap.com/1/v2 Meanwhile, this weekend at CommVEx, here's a VIC-20 talking to a Gopher server: http://www.floodgap.com/iv/969 This is using Greg "Goog" Alekel's Comet64 device, which is essentially an IP-stack-on-a-chip connected to the user port. It's similarly functional to things like the Lantronix UDS-10, but this is a totally all-in-one device powered by the user port, so it is much more convenient (albeit slower -- Greg does not yet support connecting it to a SwiftLink or other ACIA cartridge, but I put the bug in his ear for a future hardware revision). Considering what it does, the price is very reasonable. See http://www.commodoreserver.com/Products.asp Yes, I hear you cry, the VIC-20 is not *really* talking to the server, the chip is. But a VIC-20 can definitely parse a Gopher menu. And really, I just consider things like this to be overgrown NICs :) -- ------------------------------------ personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser at floodgap.com -- TRUE HEADLINE: Morning-After Pill Decision Delayed -------------------------

Cameron Kaiser wrote: *waiting with bated breath* Peace... Sridhar

On Thu, 22 Jul 2010, Steven Hirsch wrote: Have you installed Cameron's excellent overbite extension to firefox ? I belive the code the code for gopher support that the older firefox browser came with had multiple issues with certain mime types it didnt except to find over gopher, and was one of the reasons why Cameron developed that plugin in the firstplace. regards -- Jacob Dahl Pind | telefisk.org | fidonet 2:237/38.8

Really? No problem with Fx 3.6 (either with the OverbiteFF extension or natively), or Camino 2.0. What message do you see? -- ------------------------------------ personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser at floodgap.com -- I can't complain, but sometimes I still do. -- Joe Walsh -------------------

Ah, good. I might have Veronica-2 reindex your site so that the itypes all match up now. -- ------------------------------------ personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser at floodgap.com -- Commodore on desk/Power light glowing brightly/The computer waits -- T. Lake

On 7/21/2010 10:01 PM, Dan Gahlinger wrote: That's it, but 4.2.13 or higher is the only version to work with IDE drives so that's the one to look for if you can find it. -- Jim Leonard (trixter at oldskool.org) http://www.oldskool.org/ Help our electronic games project: http://www.mobygames.com/ Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/ A child borne of the home computer wars: http://trixter.wordpress.com/