27 Jun
2005
27 Jun
'05
3:56 a.m.
On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 Paul Koning <pkoning at equallogic.com> wrote:
Unfortunately, the DECnet for Linux sucks so bad it isn't usable. Well, it
is kindof usable if you want to talk with a VMS machine, but it don't work
against RSX. I've tried it... :-(
Appearantly the DECnet/Linux guys only have had VMS machines to test
against, and I didn't manage to stir much interest when I reported how
badly it failed with RSX. I only got responses like "well, that don't
surprise us, since we've only tested against VMS".
(I haven't tried DECnet/Linux against VMS, so I don't know if it works,
but that's what they say anyway.)
Johnny
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>>>> "Guy" == Guy Sotomayor <ggs at shiresoft.com> writes:
> So tell me, what are the really cool methods
to transfer data
> between a PC and a real PDP11 at a reasonable speed? SCSI
> controller and SCSI disk? Something else? Ethernet?
>
> Or is a backup over serial line a normal thing...?
Guy> I found that the best way to backup/restore is to use tape. I
Guy> have a TU80 on the PDP and a SCSI 9-track on the PC. Works
Guy> great and is much faster than the serial line.
Ethernet is another good way; DECnet is available on Linux. 
27 Jun
27 Jun
7:03 a.m.
>>>> "Johnny" == Johnny Billquist
<bqt at Update.UU.SE> writes:
Johnny> On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 Paul Koning <pkoning at equallogic.com>
Johnny> wrote:
> Ethernet is another good way; DECnet is available
on Linux.
Johnny> Unfortunately, the DECnet for Linux sucks so bad it isn't
Johnny> usable. Well, it is kindof usable if you want to talk with a
Johnny> VMS machine, but it don't work against RSX. I've tried
Johnny> it... :-(
So try it with RSTS...
Johnny> Appearantly the DECnet/Linux guys only have had VMS machines
Johnny> to test against, and I didn't manage to stir much interest
Johnny> when I reported how badly it failed with RSX. I only got
Johnny> responses like "well, that don't surprise us, since we've
Johnny> only tested against VMS".
Hard to blame someone for having it not work on a system they can't
test. It's open source -- you can fix it, and contribute your fixes.
That's what I did.
Part of the problem is at the DEC end -- undocumented hacks in DAP
(VMS is particularly bad there) and the totally undocumented pre-CTERM
"set host" protocols.
paul
12:30 p.m.
> Ethernet
is another good way; DECnet is available on Linux.
> Unfortunately, the DECnet for Linux sucks so bad it isn't
> usable. 
3:18 p.m.
Why the emphasis on FAST? I thought this was a
one-time project?
The whole job could have been completed using a serial link at
1200 baud in less time than it took to search for a faster
solution.
SOmewhat relaated...
'A hacker is a person who will spend 2 hours to find an automated way of
sdoing something, when it would take 5 minutes to do it by hand, and when
he only has to do it a dozen times' :-)
-tony
6:05 p.m.
On Mon, 27 Jun 2005, Tony Duell wrote:
That sounds like me, unfortunately. Sometimes I just have to smack myself
to get out of that mindset and get the fricken job done.
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Why the
emphasis on FAST? I thought this was a one-time project?
The whole job could have been completed using a serial link at
1200 baud in less time than it took to search for a faster
solution.
SOmewhat relaated...
'A hacker is a person who will spend 2 hours to find an automated way of
sdoing something, when it would take 5 minutes to do it by hand, and when
he only has to do it a dozen times' :-) 
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