19 Feb
2002
19 Feb
'02
1:23 p.m.
But still a couple of years "green".
I found a copy of Yggdrasil Plug-n-Play Linux today, the User's
Manual, CD & boot floppy.
It's the Summer '94 edition; Linux v1.1. I've been looking through
the HCL (so I can install it, of course!) and IDE/ATAPI CD-ROMs aren't
even mentioned. Neither are any of the graphics adapters I own.
Although I think the ET6000 will pretend to be an ET4k.
But this bloat-hog demands 4M RAM and at least 3M diskspace,
recommended 300M.
This might get hairy...
Doc
19 Feb
19 Feb
1:39 p.m.
But still a couple of years "green".
I found a copy of Yggdrasil Plug-n-Play Linux today, the User's
Manual, CD & boot floppy.
It's the Summer '94 edition; Linux v1.1. I've been looking through
the HCL (so I can install it, of course!) and IDE/ATAPI CD-ROMs aren't
even mentioned. Neither are any of the graphics adapters I own.
Although I think the ET6000 will pretend to be an ET4k.
But this bloat-hog demands 4M RAM and at least 3M diskspace,
recommended 300M.
This might get hairy...
I remember the Yggdrasil distribution. I think I threw my
old copies away a couple of years ago. I remember reading
that 1G was required to load everything and wondering how
I was going to get that much space. I had 12MB of RAM so
I was covered there, and I remember searching for an ET4000-
based ISA video card so I could run 16-bit color. I bought
a 512K ET4000 and added another 512K I scrounged from some-
where. 1MB video card! All that with a 33MHz 486DX CPU.
My CDROM drive was the original Mitsumi 0.9X (or so) drive.
But it was a change from the roll-your-own Linux installation
I was originally doing, and the many floppy SLS distribution
I used after that. Imagine, everything on one CD!
Now my main Linux box has 120GB HD, 2GB RAM, 64MB video card,
dual PIII-750MHz CPUs, and a 40X CDROM drive.
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4:59 p.m.
Wow, I didn't realize that fractional CD-Rom
drives existed. I assumed
that 1x was the first!
Yes, that Mitsumi drive was slow!
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5:07 p.m.
Eric Dittman wrote:
> where. 1MB video card! All that with a 33MHz 486DX CPU.
> My CDROM drive was the original Mitsumi 0.9X (or so) drive.
On Wed, 20 Feb
2002, Chad Fernandez wrote:
Wow, I didn't realize that fractional CD-Rom
drives existed. I assumed
that 1x was the first!
It was FIRST. But then Mitsumi and a few others came up with some
creative ways to make cheaper ones.
20 Feb
20 Feb
2:37 p.m.
--- Chad Fernandez <fernande(a)internet1.net> wrote:
Wow, I didn't realize that fractional CD-Rom
drives existed. I assumed
that 1x was the first!
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
Eric Dittman wrote:
> where. 1MB video card! All that with a 33MHz 486DX CPU.
> My CDROM drive was the original Mitsumi 0.9X (or so) drive.
As others have mentioned, sub-1X drives exist. The reference is
to the speed needed to playback CDDA and hear audio in real-time.
I have an NEC CDR-74. The caddy does not have an aluminum slider
that moves to one side, it splits, like bomb bay doors. Regular
caddies do not work in this drive. I got it from DAK (remember
them pushing CD-ROM drives incessently?) for $280 with DOS drivers
and a Trantor T-128 8-bit SCSI card. I loved it at the time because
I was able to use the same drive on a PC, a Mac and an Amiga.
A DOS application that came with Activision's "Return To Zork" rated
this drive at 0.5X... entirely unsuitable for game play.
-ethan
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19 Feb
19 Feb
3:15 p.m.
But still a couple of years "green".
I found a copy of Yggdrasil Plug-n-Play Linux today, the User's
Manual, CD & boot floppy.
It's the Summer '94 edition; Linux v1.1. I've been looking through
the HCL (so I can install it, of course!) and IDE/ATAPI CD-ROMs aren't
even mentioned. Neither are any of the graphics adapters I own.
Although I think the ET6000 will pretend to be an ET4k.
But this bloat-hog demands 4M RAM and at least 3M diskspace,
recommended 300M.
This might get hairy...
Doc
Hmmm, I think I might have a copy of that somewhere. Yggdrasil gave all of
us that were activelly supporting Linux free copies of at least there first
two or three releases. As for the graphics adapter requirements, those were
a nightmare since my 486/33 didn't like ET4000 based cards! However, by '93
there was a VGA driver, prior to that you could run MGR for a windowing
system. My problem was that my NEC CD-ROM's SCSI board wasn't supported.
BTW, I should still have floppies with 0.12 in my stash, and I've still got
the 486 in more or less the same configuration. For me Linux has been on
topic for over a month now :^)
Zane
20 Feb
20 Feb
10:02 a.m.
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Tony Duell wrote:
Well, FWIW, I'm running a similar vintage of Linux
on a machine with just
a (text only) MDA card. No problems at all.
I believe that for text-mode operations (normal shells, etc) you can use
any 'normal' graphics card -- MDA, CGA, EGA, or VGA. It's when you want
to install X that things can get interesting.
Yup. But, IIRC, the real challenge of the v1.x days was getting
graphics to fly. Sort of tying in with another thread, There were damn
few stores where I would buy PC adapters then (95-96), because CrapUSA
and Worst Buy didn't grok my need to write down chipset & ramdac specs
to take home before I made a purchase. "Of course it's supported. RIGHT
THERE on the BOX! 'Windows95 certified!" Jeez. "Linux??? Is that a
game?"
Doc
12:14 p.m.
New subject: small NeXT brag...
A local guy, who was a longtime NeXT user, had a bunch of
NeXT optical disks, including OS distribution disks. I was able to
talk him out of the optical disks and one of the filters that clip to
the rear of the optical drive, plus one of the older optical drive
cables that supported dual drives. He stated that he never reused
the OS disks for anything and that they should still have the OS on
them, the earliest version being NeXTstep 0.9. I already had an OD
that was the distro for NS 0.8 but it got erased and reused at some
point. A good haul to go along with my newly aquired '030 cube!
Jeff
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21 Feb
21 Feb
8:58 a.m.
hi doc -- i ran yggdrasil for a while back then - im sure i still have
it around here somewhere under one of these piles of hardware or cds --
it installed really easily on a 486 then with a soundblaster with cd
interface and sony cdrom - and it also had a vesa bus et4000 video
card -- but i never have tried it on an ide cd machine -- billp
On Tuesday, February 19, 2002, at 10:23 , Doc Shipley wrote:
But still a couple of years "green".
I found a copy of Yggdrasil Plug-n-Play Linux today, the User's
Manual, CD & boot floppy.
It's the Summer '94 edition; Linux v1.1. I've been looking through
the HCL (so I can install it, of course!) and IDE/ATAPI CD-ROMs aren't
even mentioned. Neither are any of the graphics adapters I own.
Although I think the ET6000 will pretend to be an ET4k.
But this bloat-hog demands 4M RAM and at least 3M diskspace,
recommended 300M.
This might get hairy...
Doc
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