Provenance and lineage - test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org

25 Feb 1998

 I don't care for replicas. Instead of building a replica why not try 
 to make your own design from scratch? At least it would be original.
 I don't have an Apple 1, doubt I'll ever luck into one at a reasonable 
 cost and am happy with that (well... fatalistic anyway and have 
 accepted the situation). At least the rest of what I'm preserving is 
 real. No replicas/tributes/fakes for me.

 Marty Mintzell

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Subject: Re: Provenance and lineage
Author:  classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu at internet
Date:    2/25/98 12:57 PM

 At 09:41 2/25/98 -0500, Chuck wrote: 
...
 Scott Walde wrote:
  > >Thinking out loud:
 > >I wonder what the market would be for an Apple I replica?  Yeah, but!!!

Can you picture the problems trying to document the lineage of a 
'genuine' Altair, IMSAI, or Apple.  
 That's called provenance, and antique dealers do it all the time -- and 
 I've written provenance on an Apple One myself, which was easy, since the 
 board was being bought from a retired Apple exec and he showed me all the 
 right stuff.

 Car and airplane collectors have procedures in place to deal with these 
 matters, and we will end up copying those.  For example, there aren't many 
 Bugattis around any more with ALL their original parts, but thanks to the 
 infrastructure that's evolved, people simply know which parts are in what 
 car.  It only matters when they change hands, anyway.  This is what's 
 behind, for example, Chris Bachmann's attempt to establish an Apple One 
 registry.

 Absent that, though, I think that any Apple One "replica" would currently 
 be considered a forgery.

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 Kip Crosby                 engine(a)chac.org
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 Computer History Association of California

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