25 Feb
2016
25 Feb
'16
5:55 a.m.
From: Paul Koning
FWIW, I have always heard 11/05 and 11/40
respectively.
Good to know that others have the same vibe that I do.
From: Bill Degnan
putting all of that original 11/10 stuff aside :-)
:-)
There is a version of the processor handbook with all
4, and there is a
version with just 11/40. I have never seen a processor handbook for
just the 11/35, 11/05, or 11/10 by itself.
Good point.
BTW, there's often some confusion; some people think the 11/05-10 was the
second PDP-11. It wasn't, it's the fourth, and those processor handbooks
confirm that. The first 11/45 one is dated 1971, the 11/40 one is 1972,
and the one with the four is 1973.
I always treated the 11/05 and 11/10 as separate
machines, just as much
as the 11/05 S and 11/05 NC.
Can you please remind me again what the differences with the 11/05NC are? I
remembered we discussed it, but I'm too lazy to dig through the list archives
for it.
As far as I know, the original 11/05 and original 11/10 differ only in i)
the number on the front, and ii) what options were standard/offered in each;
the hardware is entirely identical.
Not sure if there is an 11/10 model S or NC.
There is definitely an 11/10S (again, identical internally, AFAIK, to
the 05S - the DEC manual for the 05S-10S says exactly that).
From: Paul Anderson
The 11/05 and 11/10 .. use about 6 different
backplanes, most of then
listed in the Unibus Troubleshooting Guide.
I know of 3, will have to look there to see what else it says.
A lot of people have gotten into trouble thinking all
the backplanes
were the same.
Yes! I know of two for the 11/05-10: one holds one MM11-L, with four SPC
slots; one holds two MM11-L's, with only a single SPC slot. The 11/05S-10S
have a different backplane which holds a single MM11-U, and has 3 SPC slots.
Needless to say, trying to plug an SPC board into a memory slot, etc will
lead to tears (and probably smoke, too... :-)
Noel
25 Feb
25 Feb
6:23 a.m.
2016-02-25 14:55 GMT+01:00 Noel Chiappa <jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu>:
The NC is in the BA11-D 10 1/2 inch box. It uses the H750 PSU.
From: Paul
Koning
FWIW, I have always heard 11/05 and 11/40
respectively.
Good to know that others have the same vibe that I do.
From: Bill Degnan
putting all of that original 11/10 stuff aside
:-)
:-)
There is a version of the processor handbook with
all 4, and there
is a
version with just 11/40. I have never seen a
processor handbook for
just the 11/35, 11/05, or 11/10 by itself.
Good point.
BTW, there's often some confusion; some people think the 11/05-10 was the
second PDP-11. It wasn't, it's the fourth, and those processor handbooks
confirm that. The first 11/45 one is dated 1971, the 11/40 one is 1972,
and the one with the four is 1973.
I always treated the 11/05 and 11/10 as separate
machines, just as
much
as the 11/05 S and 11/05 NC.
Can you please remind me again what the differences with the 11/05NC are? I
remembered we discussed it, but I'm too lazy to dig through the list
archives
for it.
As far as I know, the original 11/05 and original 11/10 differ only in i)
the number on the front, and ii) what options were standard/offered in
each;
the hardware is entirely identical.
NC can have two MM11-L. No SPC slots.
I have three machines with three different backplanes. One 11/05-NC, one
11/10 in 5.25 inch box and one 11/05-S in BA11-K.
Not sure if there is an 11/10 model S or NC.
There is definitely an 11/10S (again, identical internally, AFAIK, to
the 05S - the DEC manual for the 05S-10S says exactly that).
From: Paul Anderson
The 11/05 and 11/10 .. use about 6 different
backplanes, most of then
listed in the Unibus Troubleshooting Guide.
I know of 3, will have to look there to see what else it says.
A lot of people have gotten into trouble thinking
all the backplanes
were the same.
Yes! I know of two for the 11/05-10: one holds one MM11-L, with four SPC
slots; one holds two MM11-L's, with only a single SPC slot. The 11/05S-10S
have a different backplane which holds a single MM11-U, and has 3 SPC
slots.
Needless to say, trying to plug an SPC board into a memory slot, etc will
lead to tears (and probably smoke, too... :-)
Noel
7:48 a.m.
I always treated the 11/05 and 11/10 as separate
machines, just as
much
as the 11/05 S and 11/05 NC.
Can you please remind me again what the differences with the 11/05NC remembered we discussed it, but I'm too lazy
to dig through the list
archives
for it.
The NC is in the BA11-D 10 1/2 inch box. It uses the H750 PSU.
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