27 Apr
2005
27 Apr
'05
3:02 p.m.
Haven't got a lot of money to drop on classic computer goodness, but I
do brew a varied and drinkable selection of beers.
OK - here are some things I'm trying to get hold of.
Cable to go between two RL02 drives
Serial printer, ideally a DECWriter of some sort ('cos it's to go on my
PDP11)
VAXStation SCSI cable (with the funny half-pitch pins)
Some kind of CP/M box, with a reasonably well-documented disk controller
and console (can be internal, or an external serial terminal - I'm not
bothered).
Will swap for beer or toys, can collect.
Gordon.
27 Apr
27 Apr
3:11 p.m.
Where are you located?
I know of a Decwriter III in Astoria, OR that could be gotten cheap
but would have to be picked up.
Paxton
On 4/27/05, Gordon JC Pearce <gordon at gjcp.net> wrote:
Haven't got a lot of money to drop on classic
computer goodness, but I
do brew a varied and drinkable selection of beers.
OK - here are some things I'm trying to get hold of.
Cable to go between two RL02 drives
Serial printer, ideally a DECWriter of some sort ('cos it's to go on my
PDP11)
VAXStation SCSI cable (with the funny half-pitch pins)
Some kind of CP/M box, with a reasonably well-documented disk controller
and console (can be internal, or an external serial terminal - I'm not
bothered).
Will swap for beer or toys, can collect.
Gordon.
--
Paxton Hoag
Astoria, OR
USA
8:50 p.m.
On 4/27/05, Gordon JC Pearce <gordon at gjcp.net> wrote:
Haven't got a lot of money to drop on classic
computer goodness, but I
do brew a varied and drinkable selection of beers.
OK - here are some things I'm trying to get hold of.
Cable to go between two RL02 drives
Serial printer, ideally a DECWriter of some sort ('cos it's to go on my
PDP11)
Where are you? I know two DECwriter II for $10 each if you can pick up.
VAXStation SCSI cable (with the funny half-pitch
pins)
Some kind of CP/M box, with a reasonably well-documented disk controller
and console (can be internal, or an external serial terminal - I'm not
bothered).
Will swap for beer or toys, can collect.
Gordon.
28 Apr
28 Apr
12:43 a.m.
On 4/27/05, Gordon JC Pearce <gordon at
gjcp.net> wrote:
Bah, should have mentioned, I'm in the UK.
Gordon.
Haven't got a lot of money to drop on classic
computer goodness, but I
do brew a varied and drinkable selection of beers.
OK - here are some things I'm trying to get hold of.
Cable to go between two RL02 drives
Serial printer, ideally a DECWriter of some sort ('cos it's to go on my
PDP11)
Where are you? I know two DECwriter II for $10 each if you can pick up.
10:20 a.m.
Gordon,
I can do you an RL02 cable, and possibly an LA100 (depends if there are any
on the pallet when I go into our disposal store tomorrow!
You are in the UK I hope...........
Jim.
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From: "Gordon JC Pearce" <gordon at gjcp.net>
To: <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 11:02 PM
Subject: Stuff I want
Haven't got a lot of money to drop on classic
computer goodness, but I
do brew a varied and drinkable selection of beers.
OK - here are some things I'm trying to get hold of.
Cable to go between two RL02 drives
Serial printer, ideally a DECWriter of some sort ('cos it's to go on my
PDP11)
VAXStation SCSI cable (with the funny half-pitch pins)
Some kind of CP/M box, with a reasonably well-documented disk controller
and console (can be internal, or an external serial terminal - I'm not
bothered).
Will swap for beer or toys, can collect.
Gordon.
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1:38 p.m.
OK, here's a list of (on topic) things I want:
- A good working DEC RL01 Drive
- A full set of drive select (0-3) plugs for RL01/RL02 drives
- Someone to fix my somewhat sick RK8E (buss interface is messed up)
- A Wang 370 Programming Keyboard (for Wang 300 Calculators)
- Rackmount Slides for DEC RL01/RL02 drives (for mounting in a DEC rack)
- Four known-good Intel 1101A 256x1 Static RAM chips (to fix a Wang 144
calc)
- HP-9100A calculator
- A replacment phototransistor array for my DEC PC-08 tape reader/punch. One
phototransistor is bad.
Have numerous things to trade, too much to list here.
Money is short - just got laid off, so I can't offer much in the way of
funds.
If you have anything Email me, and maybe we can work out some trades.
Rick Bensene
The Old Calculator Web Museum
http://oldcalculatormuseum.com
1:58 p.m.
New subject: Stuff I want - all I want is a "0"
"Rick Bensene" wrote:
...
- A full set of drive select (0-3) plugs for RL01/RL02
drives
Heh. I could use a "0" myself.
What does one do when one only has a "1"?
it works, but i'd like a 0. can I make one out of something else?
-brad
ps: anyone ever use a TSZ07 9-track drive?
2:04 p.m.
New subject: Stuff I want - all I want is a "0"
- A full set of
drive select (0-3) plugs for RL01/RL02 drives
Heh. I could use a "0" myself.
What does one do when one only has a "1"?
it works, but i'd like a 0. can I make one out of something else?
-brad
ps: anyone ever use a TSZ07 9-track drive?
30 Apr
30 Apr
4:14 a.m.
New subject: Stuff I want - all I want is a "0"
Brad Parker wrote:
"Ashley Carder" wrote:
I tried this (responding to my own post), and it did "just work". The
linux st driver saw the tape drive and I was able to use several
archiving programs to read tapes. Worked fine with linux.
I don't know about DOS software, however, sorry.
-brad
I have a TSZ07, but I haven't tried to use it yet. Does anyone
know what operating systems I can use it with on a PC?
I'm assuming the linux scsi driver will "just work". I may try today.
1 May
1 May
10:33 p.m.
New subject: TSZ07 (was Re: Stuff I want - all I want is a "0")
On 4/29/05, Brad Parker <brad at heeltoe.com> wrote:
"Ashley Carder" wrote:
It does. When I first got my TSZ07 a few years ago, I pulled out an
Adaptec 1640 PCMCIA SCSI card, threw it in my RedHat laptop, and was
sending 'mt' commands a few seconds later.
What I could use is a good breakdown of available tools to pull some
old VMS backups off of some of my 1600 bpi tapes... I have used a
variety of tools over the years, but do not know what the current
'best' tools are. Initially, I just want to preserve the backup
archives themselves, but I also need to extract some C source code
I have a TSZ07, but I haven't tried to use it yet. Does anyone
know what operating systems I can use it with on a PC?
I'm assuming the linux scsi driver will "just work". I may try today.
from the archives. ISTR 'vmstar' was one tool
I used more than ten
years ago. Not sure if it has been supplanted or is still the
tool of
choice. I really don't know what folks recommend for the initial
extraction. I am sure 'dd' will work, but I'm/ curious what might
work better/more reliably/more simply.
-ethan
28 Apr
28 Apr
2:21 p.m.
New subject: Stuff I want - all I want is a "0"
On Thu, 2005-04-28 at 16:58 -0400, Brad Parker wrote:
"Rick Bensene" wrote:
...
Get two '1's and bend them inwards top and bottom, then glue them
together? Instant '0'.
Sorry :-)
Seriously, presumably it all routes to a header on a PCB somewhere, so
just disconnecting there and rigging for the right ID is possible.
Doesn't look as nice from the outside, but at least it'd work.
cheers
Jules
- A full set of drive select (0-3) plugs for
RL01/RL02 drives
Heh. I could use a "0" myself.
What does one do when one only has a "1"? 
3:48 p.m.
New subject: Stuff I want - all I want is a "0"
"Rick Bensene" wrote:
...
Well, the RK06/RK07 drives used numbers 0-7. They are the same as the RL
series plugs physically, but the RL will ignore the MSB. So you could use
a #4 plug from an RK06 or RK07
Alternatively, you could grab the printset and cut/jumper the back of the
switch board as appropriate to force it to be drive 0 or whatever. Let me
know if you want me to work out just how to do this.
-tony
- A full set of drive select (0-3) plugs for
RL01/RL02 drives
Heh. I could use a "0" myself.
What does one do when one only has a "1"?
it works, but i'd like a 0. can I make one out of something else? 
29 Apr
29 Apr
3:52 a.m.
New subject: Corvus 8" winchester disk drive
Hi everybody.
Someone knows of one Corvus 8" winchester disk drive available and operative
? Destination Europe, but I would accept to discuss about the shipment of
one of these from the US (for example).
About the possible systems where it could be used, I heard about the Apple
II and the IBM PC, plus some S-100 systems. One controller plus cable set
for one of these systems would be welcome too.
Regards
Sergio
7:43 a.m.
New subject: Stuff I want - all I want is a "0"
From: "Tony Duell" <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk>
> "Rick Bensene" wrote:
> ...
> >- A full set of drive select (0-3) plugs for RL01/RL02 drives
>
> Heh. I could use a "0" myself.
...
Alternatively, you could grab the printset and
cut/jumper the back of the
switch board as appropriate to force it to be drive 0 or whatever. Let me
know if you want me to work out just how to do this.
Since this has come up twice in as many months, I have started some molds
for "0" and "1" drive select plugs. We'll see in a few days if I
am able to
manufacture any.
Vince
1 May
1 May
6:19 p.m.
New subject: I made a zero (was Re: Stuff I want - all I want is a "0")
OK, here's the followup on my attempt to make an RL02 "0":
http://so-much-stuff.com/pdp8/zero.html
I think it turned out pretty well for a first attempt. (I did break the "1"
getting it out of the mold, though.)
Vince
8:53 p.m.
New subject: I made a zero (was Re: Stuff I want - all I want is a "0")
On 5/1/05, vrs <vrs at msn.com> wrote:
OK, here's the followup on my attempt to make an
RL02 "0":
http://so-much-stuff.com/pdp8/zero.html
I think it turned out pretty well for a first attempt.
Nice job. I was recently going through a box of plastic bits (to put
away the handles I got from you, coincidentally), and found a 6 and a
7, from an RK07, no doubt (since the RL01/RL02 switches top out at
3)... IIRC, one can use them modulo 3 in an RL01/RL02 (i.e., these
would work as 2 and 3) if one doesn't happen to have a full load of
RK07s to populate with numbers.
My recollection of the old days was that 1s and 2s were harder to find
that 0s, but probably because we never misplaced our 0s... they were
right there on the system drives. Somewhere in some old DEC
reseller's warehouse there has to be an enormous box of numbers...
much like teeth in the fabled elephant's graveyard.
Anyway, nice work with the molds, Vince... as you get better at
things, perhaps you might work your way up to PDP-11/70 toggles (no...
I don't have any examples to mold from; my 11/70 panel came partially
pre-stripped (thanks again, Jay!))
-ethan
-ethan
28 Apr
28 Apr
2:13 p.m.
On Thu, 2005-04-28 at 13:38 -0700, Rick Bensene wrote:
OK, here's a list of (on topic) things I want:
OK, for the museum (leads on possible sources in the UK very useful too,
obviously!):
- Cray - one of the circular ones preferably as the public can identify
more readily with those.
- Thinking Machines CM-2 or CM-5 [1]
- Sun 4/330 (or similar) to provide spares to get our RAP
'supercomputer' operational again
- Vectrex [2]
- ICL 2966 CPU (we have the rest in order to make a complete system)
- NeXT Cube or Slab (preferably a Cube but either would be nice)
[1] Actually people like to see the big stuff in general, so anything
considered from the 50s - early 90s. Lots of flashing lights really draw
the crowds though, hence the desire to get a CM-2 or -5!
[2] I have a particular fondness for the Vectrex, but again (as we try
to be hands-on with as much stuff as possible) I except one would be
really popular with the public.
Potentially we have a lot of stuff to trade with...
cheers
Jules
4:03 p.m.
OK, here's
a list of (on topic) things I want:
OK, for the museum [...] - Sun 4/330 (or similar) to provide spares to get our
RAP
'supercomputer' operational again
I have a complete 4/470, and the VME boards from another 4/470. Is
that close enough to be of any use to you?
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7:43 a.m.
On Fri, 2005-04-29 at 10:15 -0400, Brad Parker wrote:
Jules Richardson wrote:
...
I believe a couple of them are in the hnads of list members. It'd be
nice to find one to put on public display this side of the pond though!
cheers
Jules
- Thinking Machines CM-2 or CM-5 [1]
huh. Did any CM-2's escape?
love to have one of those.
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