12 Sep
2006
12 Sep
'06
1:54 p.m.
What do people recommend for an Assembler on the Commodore 64? I'm wanting
to play around with one, and am not sure what to use. I downloaded "Turbo
Macro Pro '05", but have yet to figure it out how to actually do anything
with it. As I understand it, I'm supposed to start it with the following:
LOAD"TMP 1.1/S.",8
SYS 8*4096
Or instead of the SYS command I can use the Fastload cart to jump to $8000.
However, in both cases, I get the same result, a READY prompt, and seem to
still be in BASIC.
Zane
12 Sep
12 Sep
2:07 p.m.
On Tue, 12 Sep 2006, Zane H. Healy wrote:
What do people recommend for an Assembler on the
Commodore 64? I'm wanting
to play around with one, and am not sure what to use. I downloaded "Turbo
Macro Pro '05", but have yet to figure it out how to actually do anything
with it. As I understand it, I'm supposed to start it with the following:
LOAD"TMP 1.1/S.",8
SYS 8*4096
Or instead of the SYS command I can use the Fastload cart to jump to $8000.
However, in both cases, I get the same result, a READY prompt, and seem to
still be in BASIC.
Hey Zane;
Try:
LOAD"TMP 1.1/S.",8,1
The ,1 will tell BASIC to load the code to the address it was saved from -
rather than at the bottom of memory ($0801, like you are here).
That'll probably help;
JP
9:43 p.m.
At 1:07 PM -0500 9/12/06, JP Hindin wrote:
On Tue, 12 Sep 2006, Zane H. Healy wrote:
Thanks, that did the trick!
Zane
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What do people recommend for an Assembler on the
Commodore 64? I'm wanting
to play around with one, and am not sure what to use. I downloaded "Turbo
Macro Pro '05", but have yet to figure it out how to actually do anything
with it. As I understand it, I'm supposed to start it with the following:
LOAD"TMP 1.1/S.",8
SYS 8*4096
Or instead of the SYS command I can use the Fastload cart to jump to $8000.
However, in both cases, I get the same result, a READY prompt, and seem to
still be in BASIC.
Hey Zane;
Try:
LOAD"TMP 1.1/S.",8,1
The ,1 will tell BASIC to load the code to the address it was saved from -
rather than at the bottom of memory ($0801, like you are here).
That'll probably help;
JP 
3:31 p.m.
What do people recommend for an Assembler on the
Commodore 64? I'm wanting
to play around with one, and am not sure what to use.
I like TurboAssembler, affectionately christened "TurboAss." There are about
a million variants with this hack or that hack added in, but it is widely
available and free.
If you want to do cross-assembling, I shall now make a shameless plug and
encourage you to try xa:
http://www.floodgap.com/retrotech/xa/
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3:43 p.m.
On 9/13/06, Cameron Kaiser <spectre at floodgap.com> wrote:
> What do people recommend for an Assembler on the
Commodore 64? I'm wanting
> to play around with one, and am not sure what to use.
I got my start way back with the official Commodore Assembler, an official
copy that arrived some months after my employer was sent a demo C-64
to write software for. I still have my original disks from 1982, so when I'm
in the C-64 nvironment, that's what I use. It can be a bit clunky; the tools
all center around the BASIC environment with special patches - you enter
code as if you were entering BASIC, but when the "EDITOR" is loaded,
it doesn't tokenize code, and it adds a couple of commands via a BASIC
"Wedge" to allow you to load and save code as SEQential files.
In the past few years, though, I've seen massive productivity gains by
using a cross assembler under UNIX (dasm is good) and testing under
VICE. The cycle goes something like: edit with vi or Emacs, make,
then switch to VICE and do a LOAD "myprog",11,1 (device 11 under
VICE is an emulated disk drive that maps to whatever VICE thinks is
the current directory). Being able to use a large display-space editor
is verrry nice compared to what I used to do back in the old days on
a real C-64. It allows me to see a lot more code at once, and not
worry about wrapping at 40 columns.
-ethan
13 Sep
13 Sep
11:15 a.m.
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 03:31 pm, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
If you want to do cross-assembling, I shall now make a
shameless plug and
encourage you to try xa:
http://www.floodgap.com/retrotech/xa/
Neat!
Anybody know of cross-assemblers for any other chips?
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M Dakin
3:14 p.m.
On 9/13/2006 at 11:15 AM Roy J. Tellason wrote:
Anybody know of cross-assemblers for any other chips?
Here are a coiuple:
http://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/assembler.html
In partcular, note CrossFire, a meta-assembler.
When I'm working with a strange chip, I just code the instruction set as a
bunch of MASM macros.
Cheers,
Chuck
4:53 p.m.
On Wednesday 13 September 2006 03:14 pm, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 9/13/2006 at 11:15 AM Roy J. Tellason wrote:
Um. Some of that stuff looks fairly interesting but it all looks like it
needs dos or some other m$ platform, and I'm running only linux here...
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ablest -- form of life in this section of space, a critter that can
be killed but can't be tamed. --Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters"
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Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James
M Dakin
Anybody know of cross-assemblers for any other
chips?
Here are a coiuple:
http://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/assembler.html
In partcular, note CrossFire, a meta-assembler.
When I'm working with a strange chip, I just code the instruction set as a
bunch of MASM macros.
6:14 p.m.
When I'm
working with a strange chip, I just code the instruction set as a
bunch of MASM macros.
Um. Some of that stuff looks fairly interesting but it all looks like it
needs dos or some other m$ platform, and I'm running only linux here...
6:57 p.m.
On Wednesday 13 September 2006 06:14 pm, Zane H. Healy wrote:
So, run it under emulation on Linux, or go to freshmeat.net and see what
you can find in the way of cross-assemblers there.
True, I have spent some time in the past at freshmeat.net and forgot about it
completely...
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Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and
ablest -- form of life in this section of space, a critter that can
be killed but can't be tamed. --Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters"
-
Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James
M Dakin
When I'm working with a strange chip, I just code
the instruction set
as a bunch of MASM macros.
Um. Some of that stuff looks fairly interesting but it all looks like it
needs dos or some other m$ platform, and I'm running only linux here...
14 Sep
14 Sep
1:13 a.m.
On 9/13/2006 at 4:53 PM Roy J. Tellason wrote:
Um. Some of that stuff looks fairly interesting but it
all looks like it
needs dos or some other m$ platform, and I'm running only linux here...
If you haven't already discovered it, there's crasm for
6800/6801/6803/6502/65C02/Z80:
http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/sourceforge/c/cr/CByName.html
2:18 p.m.
On Thursday 14 September 2006 01:13 am, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 9/13/2006 at 4:53 PM Roy J. Tellason wrote:
They sure do cram a lot into < 60K bytes, there. I've downloaded it and will
play with it a bit...
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Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and
ablest -- form of life in this section of space, a critter that can
be killed but can't be tamed. --Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters"
-
Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James
M Dakin
Um. Some of that stuff looks fairly interesting
but it all looks like it
needs dos or some other m$ platform, and I'm running only linux here...
If you haven't already discovered it, there's crasm for
6800/6801/6803/6502/65C02/Z80:
http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/sourceforge/c/cr/CByName.html
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