Thanks for the reply, Steve. I've tried many things so far and the use of
vinegar was one of them :) This is a long story that I didn't want to bore
anyone with but here goes.
My first experience with a Lisa 2/5 after acquiring one was a broken CRT
that occurred during shipping. It still had the batteries in it so I cut
those out and soaked the I/O and motherboard in vinegar/water to remove as
much corrosion as possible. To fix the broken CRT, I sourced a DEC 12"
mono CRT and replaced the yoke with the Lisa yoke. Unfortunately, the Lisa
was dead when trying to start it up the first time (I couldn't start
troubleshooting without a good CRT). All the while, I was a little
skeptical that the DEC CRT would work.
As a back up, I was lucky enough to find an empty Lisa 2/5 chassis (with
wiring, motherboard and CRT) so I picked that up. This was an A6SB100
model with a Lisa 2 front bezel. The motherboard was also corroded but was
different from my original motherboard. On this one, the mouse, needs a
notched mouse connector that I assume was used on the original Lisa 1. I
was able to clean "motherboard 2" with water/vinegar but the caps around
the parallel port had disintegrated. I've since ordered those. While my
original motherboard looked great, I did manage to break one of the pins in
the 120 pin I/O board connector while giving it a light brushing. I am
trying to find a replacement 120 pin as we speak for that.
Even with bad caps, I tried both motherboards but no luck. I had checked
most of the traces on the I/O board and found that I had to push in pins on
the COP421 to make contact. I've replaced the socket since and could power
up the Lisa with one of the motherboards!. After replacing the COP421
socket, my I/O board seems to be semi-working. My original Lisa 2/5 with
the DEC CRT works fine (note for those who have bad burn-in) but I get an
I/O board "Error 52" and that's where I am today. I think I may need a
COP421 but that is kinda difficult to find and locating this is no
guarantee that the I/O board is okay.
So, I have two chassis, one set of cards, The original motherboard (with
good caps and broken mouse pin on I/O port) is bad even though it's
gleaming (and I tried soaking a second time just in case). The motherboard
with the bad caps seems to be okay.
I do have one keyboard but I don't know if it works. I have one Mac 128K
mouse that I had to notch the 9 pin connector on to allow it to fit the
Lisa 1 motherboard. Seeing as how I have some parts for a second Lisa 2/5
including a working power supply, I figured I'd see if anyone has any spare
parts lying around because I think I've hit a wall. Other than checking
continuity again on the I/O board, I'm not sure where to go from here.
Sorry for the long post but in summary, I've been busy on it for a few
months. Thanks for listening. Unfortunately, after looking for "Error 52"
on the Lisa list and other places, it's a specific error for the COP421 but
others have fixed it, in one case, by reseating the CPU board. It's
getting a little frustrating but I'm determined!
Ultimately, I'd like to get a Lisa 2/5 with LOS going, as opposed to Mac
XL. I can revert my first Lisa 2/5 back with a few replaced ROM chips but
if someone has some extra parts lying around, I may be able to get the
second chassis going and possibly have both, hence the extended request for
parts. It seems that I need a working Lisa to fix a Lisa :)
Thanks again.
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Steven Hirsch <snhirsch at gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 7 Apr 2013, Santo Nucifora wrote:
I'm trying to restore an Apple Lisa 2/5 that has been hit with battery
corrosion. I'm looking for the following
parts, if anyone has any they'd
like to sell:
- Lisa 2/5 I/O board
- Lisa motherboard
- Lisa CPU board
Santo,
Have you tried disassembling the unit and soaking the three boards in a
50% water/white-vinegar solution for 24 hours? You may be surprised at how
well things clean up. I was given a couple of 2/5 machines in horrendous
shape and after a day in mild acidity, things looked terrific. Apple used
very high-quality PCB material and despite appearances nothing was actually
dissolved. Even the buss connectors (which were covered in green crud)
gleamed!
I did get both systems operational after some minor fiddling.
Steve
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