VMS ROCKS! Go with one of the following VAXstation 3100, VAXstation 4000 or some kind of Alpha. The lowend VS3100's are dirt cheap, and you can use a PC as a terminal. Both VAXstation 3100's and VAXstation 4000's are about the size of a desktop PC, some are smaller. And with the possible exception of one or two models of VS3100 they uses SCSI disks. Even a lowend Alpha can be gotten pretty cheap these days (say a DEC 3000/300LX). Here are some web sites: http://www.openvms.digital.com:8000/ <- Documentation http://www.montagar.com/hobbyist/index.html <- OpenVMS Hobbyist Program Of course once you get your first VMS box up, you'll need a second so you can cluster them :^) But for your first system you really want SCSI since it makes things easier. Zane | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast | | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |