In New York times. http://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/06/science/physical/06PROF.html "Would-Be Math Teacher Ended Up Educating a Computer Revolution" We gotta realize who to recognize now that the Postel's and Hopper's are gone. Is there a Hall of fame in the museum out there in Sunnyvale? John A.

As a Pine-under-Unix-shell user, for all of my written e-mail - I think that the biggest obstacle to sanitizing and securing OutHouse Mail (and it's typically Micro$hit cult design) is trying to find a way to translate "common-sense" into "Sheeple". Kinda like preventing the flood tide with a pushbroom. Just too many Sheep Users, so the kiddie-level exploits will continue unabated. That being said: a sister list (greenkeys, for mechanical Teletype fans) that has several of us classiccmpers subscribed as well - has a little routine running called "Strip Mime" that quite effectively extracts and displays the text from the RTF, HTML, etc and then prints a snide little message to that effect as a footer. Would such a facility be possible here? I think we all use 'mailman' , so I was just wondering - it might reduce the bandwidth and the resultant chiding. And yes, I've bitched about non-text posts to mailing lists myself enough times... ObClassiccmp: Looks like I have successfully rescued a pair of PDP 11/44s plus minimal perpherals, disks, and doc from a company in SoCal - just waiting the final word of when to launch the Recovery Team. One has an RL02, bu the other is reported to have a SCSI adapter and some kind of +1G HD attached - woo hoo! More when they are safe and warm in my garage... Cheerz John