17 Sep
2007
17 Sep
'07
6:40 p.m.
OK I realise this is cheating slightly but I still thought it was quite
cool that it worked...
SimH on a Nokia N800:
http://carrierdetect.com/?p=39
VM/370 R6 under Hercules on an N800:
http://carrierdetect.com/?p=40
Just wish the thing had a CF slot and thus could take a Microdrive, in
order that I wouldn't have to worry about frequent writes to flash
storage. Speaking of which does anyone know if VMS can live without page
and swap files? Somehow it doesn't seem likely... Trying to work out how I
could make it do as little writes as possible to the FS, e.g. by disabling
opcom, auditing and so on. And is there a 'noatime' mount option
equivalent for ODS?
Andrew
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Andrew Back
a at smokebelch.org
17 Sep
17 Sep
6:57 p.m.
Andrew Back wrote:
Speaking of which does anyone know if VMS can live
without
page
and swap files? Somehow it doesn't seem likely...
The OpenVMS VAX CDs from V7.1 onwards (or thereabouts)
were bootable (from [SYS1] IIRC). I don't recall there being
a requirement for any local storage.
All unsupported, if I remember correctly.
Antonio
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18 Sep
18 Sep
3:20 a.m.
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007, Antonio Carlini wrote:
Andrew Back wrote:
Thanks, I'll give it a go. I guess if that works the next step would be to
take the 'write quiet' VMS configuration and copy it into a r/w accessed
SimH disk file, in order to be able to customise.
Andrew
Speaking of which does anyone know if VMS can
live without
page
and swap files? Somehow it doesn't seem likely...
The OpenVMS VAX CDs from V7.1 onwards (or thereabouts)
were bootable (from [SYS1] IIRC). I don't recall there being
a requirement for any local storage.
All unsupported, if I remember correctly. 
17 Sep
17 Sep
9:03 p.m.
On 17/09/2007, Andrew Back <andy at smokebelch.org> wrote:
OK I realise this is cheating slightly but I still
thought it was quite
cool that it worked...
SimH on a Nokia N800:
http://carrierdetect.com/?p=39
VM/370 R6 under Hercules on an N800:
http://carrierdetect.com/?p=40
Just wish the thing had a CF slot and thus could take a Microdrive, in
order that I wouldn't have to worry about frequent writes to flash
storage. Speaking of which does anyone know if VMS can live without page
and swap files? Somehow it doesn't seem likely... Trying to work out how I
could make it do as little writes as possible to the FS, e.g. by disabling
opcom, auditing and so on. And is there a 'noatime' mount option
equivalent for ODS?
*Wow!*
There's nothing terribly coherent I can say to that, except that in
several kinds of ways that's the single most impressive thing I've
seen on a computer in quite some time.
Wow.
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10:10 p.m.
Andrew Back wrote:
OK I realise this is cheating slightly but I still
thought it was quite
cool that it worked...
SimH on a Nokia N800:
http://carrierdetect.com/?p=39
Cool!
VM/370 R6 under Hercules on an N800:
http://carrierdetect.com/?p=40
Now that is truly righteous. Impressive.
Just wish the thing had a CF slot and thus could take
a Microdrive, in
order that I wouldn't have to worry about frequent writes to flash
storage. Speaking of which does anyone know if VMS can live without page
and swap files? Somehow it doesn't seem likely... Trying to work out how
I could make it do as little writes as possible to the FS, e.g. by
disabling opcom, auditing and so on. And is there a 'noatime' mount
option equivalent for ODS?
Wasn't there someone making an outboard adapter for SD that holds a CF?
I have something similar that holds a CF and plugs into a SmartMedia slot.
Peace... Sridhar
18 Sep
18 Sep
3:23 a.m.
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007, Sridhar Ayengar wrote:
<<SNIP>>
I see... I'll look out for one. Also been thinking that since there is a
hack for the N800 to enable USB host mode I could get a USB->CF adapter
and Microdrive, and build them into a tiny case with a rechargeable
battery. The N800 wouldn't supply USB power.
Andrew
Just wish the
thing had a CF slot and thus could take a Microdrive, in
order that I wouldn't have to worry about frequent writes to flash storage.
Speaking of which does anyone know if VMS can live without page and swap
files? Somehow it doesn't seem likely... Trying to work out how I could
make it do as little writes as possible to the FS, e.g. by disabling opcom,
auditing and so on. And is there a 'noatime' mount option equivalent for
ODS?
Wasn't there someone making an outboard adapter for SD that holds a CF? I
have something similar that holds a CF and plugs into a SmartMedia slot. 
8:42 p.m.
On Sep 17, 2007, at 6:40 PM, Andrew Back wrote:
OK I realise this is cheating slightly but I still
thought it was
quite cool that it worked...
SimH on a Nokia N800:
http://carrierdetect.com/?p=39
VM/370 R6 under Hercules on an N800:
http://carrierdetect.com/?p=40
That is pretty darned cool. I wish I had put up a web page when I
did something similar last year.
I have an HP iPaq 3765 (MIPS-based PDA) onto which I installed
Linux. I built simh for ARM under Linux on a QEMU-based emulator,
and moved the binaries over to the iPaq. Last autumn, I sat on a
lounge chair on a cruise ship in the Caribbean hacking RSTS/E with a
margarita. That was as close to "heaven" as exists for me on Earth. :-)
If anyone wants to try something similar, last year I put the simh
ARM binaries on my webserver for download at:
http://www.neurotica.com/misc/simh-arm-bin.tar.gz
It is an older release of simh (whatever was current last autumn)
but it works nicely.
-Dave
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Port Charlotte, FL
Farewell Ophelia, 9/22/1991 - 7/25/2007
11:29 p.m.
Hi Dave,
I have an HP iPaq 3765 (MIPS-based PDA) onto which
I
I believe the Ipaq 3765 is StrongARM based? That makes it a lot easier
to run ARM binaries. ;-)
Cheers,
Lee Courtney
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org
> [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Dave McGuire
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 5:42 PM
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only
> Subject: Re: Handheld VAX and System/370.
>
> On Sep 17, 2007, at 6:40 PM, Andrew Back wrote:
> > OK I realise this is cheating slightly but I still thought it was
> > quite cool that it worked...
> >
> > SimH on a Nokia N800:
> >
> > http://carrierdetect.com/?p=39
> >
> > VM/370 R6 under Hercules on an N800:
> >
> > http://carrierdetect.com/?p=40
>
> That is pretty darned cool. I wish I had put up a web
> page when I did something similar last year.
>
I have an HP iPaq 3765 (MIPS-based PDA) onto which
I
> installed Linux. I built simh for ARM under Linux on a
> QEMU-based emulator, and moved the binaries over to the iPaq.
> Last autumn, I sat on a lounge chair on a cruise ship in the
> Caribbean hacking RSTS/E with a margarita. That was as close
> to "heaven" as exists for me on Earth. :-)
>
> If anyone wants to try something similar, last year I put
> the simh ARM binaries on my webserver for download at:
>
> http://www.neurotica.com/misc/simh-arm-bin.tar.gz
>
> It is an older release of simh (whatever was current last
> autumn) but it works nicely.
>
> -Dave
>
> --
> Dave McGuire
> Port Charlotte, FL
> Farewell Ophelia, 9/22/1991 - 7/25/2007
>
>
>
>
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