Hello, Thursday, September 2, 2004, 8:07:07 PM, you wrote: indeed. I always find it hard to believe how little information on these systems is left (and how few systems). Can't get very much better I guess. Looking at the IRIS pictures that have been popping up recently and my own one there are some things I'm wondering: 1) Why do the IRISes look that different on their back sides? See auction pictures for one model, and see http://sgistuff.g-lenerz.de/pictures/iris.html#3130 and http://hardware.majix.org/computers/sgi.iris/iris3130.shtml for another variant. 2) Why does the 3130 shown in the links above have fewer Multibus slots (some in the middle are left blank without sockets)? Because it is an OEM machine that isn't supposed to offer the full capabilities of an IRIS? 3) The wheels seem to be a common point of failure. I've got also one or two broken ones. -- Best regards, Gerhard mailto:mail@g-lenerz.de Old SGI Stuff http://sgistuff.g-lenerz.de/