On Oct 3 2005, 22:24, Jules Richardson wrote: we I have hardware (most notably a Mac Plus with a matching external hard drive) but not a key piece of software: Aldus Pagemaker from around 1985/86 (ie one of the earliest versions). Has anybody got a copy they could donate or lend? The reason I ask is that I'm involved in an exhibition in Computer Science at the University of York, to run for the University's Open Day this Friday, and also to support a series of "hardware tours" for the first year students starting on Monday (these guided tours are a scheduled part of each tutorial group's activities in the first week of term, and are compulsory for each new student). The idea is to show students what real hardware looks like, in support of the Introduction to Computer Systems course, which deals with architectures and systems at an introductory level. Since modern PC hardware isn't very interesting or especially educational to look at, someone had the bright idea of showing classic hardware and its innards, and I got roped in. Anyway, amongst the PDP-8, PDP-11s, SGIs and Suns, KIM-1, and a bunch of other things, there's a Mac Plus beside a loop of the 1984 promo film, and I wanted to show Pagemaker on it, as being the "killer app". -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York