On Saturday 10 June 2006 14:43, Jay West wrote: But don't overtrim so that someone who sees the message you're sending without prior ones has absolutely no clue what you're talking about. IMO, that's as annoying as people who reply to a whole digest without trimming it at all. :) Pat -- Purdue University Research Computing --- http://www.rcac.purdue.edu/ The Computer Refuge --- http://computer-refuge.org

Don wrote.... I don't know about the "norm", but I can speak to the "accepted" part. It's no different here than generally accepted common mailing list courtesy. That means.... Please do not top post, and please trim messages as appropriate. This question I'm going to consider totally irrelevant ;) Jay West Oops! In that case my apologies. I will not do any top post replies from now on. Thanks for explaining - Henk. This message and attachment(s) are intended solely for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient or agent thereof responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone and with a "reply" message. Thank you for your cooperation.

Some people can't control for this, though. My work address adds on such crap automatically, and if it's the only address they have ... Naturally I use my home E-mail for this sort of stuff. -- --------------------------------- personal: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ --- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser at floodgap.com -- #include <std_disclaimer.h> ------------------------------------------------

Just because I prefer top-posting: Tim, why get worked up over mindless legal-speak in footers? It doesn't hurt your life to skip over a few extra lines of gibberish. Lots of people have far more mindless signature files here. To everyone: I think that if individuals routinely post things here which are merely annoying to our respective opinions, then we should just gripe in private or ignore it. I think it's pretty stupid that so many people want a whole list of 1,000+ people to conform to their personal peeves about how email should be used. If every message conformed to everyone's personal style tastes, there would either be total chaos or no list at all. Instead what we have here is a microcosm of the (gasp) real world which some list members should spend more time checking out. And in the real world, everyone has his own way of doing things. Adults deal with that by shrugging things off and picking their fights carefully. So let's be adults, okay? -----Original Message----- From: Tim Riker [mailto:Tim at Rikers.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 12:52 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Top Posting and Message Trimming Gooijen, Henk wrote: addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise exempt from disclosure under applicable law. delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. immediately by telephone and with a "reply" message. Another thing to avoid is adding a footer like the above claiming that this message is in any way protected. This is NOT a private list. Archives are online. If you believe that the message you are sending should not be going to the general public, then DO NOT POST. I would recommend that the mail list reject any messages with such a clause attached to them. Thank you for your cooperation. -- Tim Riker - http://rikers.org/ - TimR at Debian.org Embedded Linux Technologist BZFlag maintainer - http://BZFlag.org/ - for fun!

Jay West wrote: <grin> Dunno. I was wondering if it was a "generational thing" (i.e. youngsters taking the easy way out and top posting while "traditionalists" -- Olde Fartes :> -- opted for bottom posting...) --don

or if you are using a threading mail reader so you have don't have to keep on reading the same stuff and scrolling down to find the replies. Yes - not all the logic is on the side of the old faithfull. Of course, with adequate trimming either method is usually satisfactory ... but that is a big proviso. Andy