27 Jun
2001
27 Jun
'01
9:04 a.m.
I am looking for way to get data out of a microVax II
running microVMS 4.6 onto a CD ROM.
The way I figure it if I can find a CD writer than works in
that configuration I'm done. But I can't seem to find out
whether this is even possible let alone where to buy a CD
like this. Any suggestions?
If the CD Writer is an impossibility then my next approach
is the put a network interface on the uVax II and send the
data I need to a more recent vintage.
Dave
27 Jun
27 Jun
9:37 a.m.
Writing CDR's on VMS 4.6 won't work.
Your MicroVAX II already _has_ a network interface and I'd suggest you use
that to get the data off. Either bring up the DECNet suite on a Linux box
and suck the data off that way or install Multinet on the MicroVAX and run
TCP/IP on it long enough get it off, or take a more modern VAX that has
both TCP/IP and DECNet installed and pull it off that way.
--Chuck
At 03:04 PM 6/27/01 -0600, Dave Peters wrote:
I am looking for way to get data out of a microVax II
running microVMS 4.6 onto a CD ROM.
The way I figure it if I can find a CD writer than works in
that configuration I'm done. But I can't seem to find out
whether this is even possible let alone where to buy a CD
like this. Any suggestions?
If the CD Writer is an impossibility then my next
approach
is the put a network interface on the uVax II and send the
data I need to a more recent vintage.
Dave
10:05 a.m.
I am looking for way to get data out of a microVax II
running microVMS 4.6 onto a CD ROM.
The way I figure it if I can find a CD writer than works in
that configuration I'm done. But I can't seem to find out
whether this is even possible let alone where to buy a CD
like this. Any suggestions?
If the CD Writer is an impossibility then my next approach
is the put a network interface on the uVax II and send the
data I need to a more recent vintage.
Unfortunatly you don't state what the resulting CD-ROM needs to be
readable on.
If it needs to be an ODS-2 CD-ROM your best bet looks to be to obtain a
VMS box with VMS V5.4 or newer. Though from the looks of things it really
should have V6.2 or newer. You can then use the following to create a disk
image that you can then burn to CD-R on a PC, Mac, or Unix box.
http://www.openvms.compaq.com/freeware/FREEWARE50/LD063/
If you need to read the CD-ROM on a non-VMS box, then things are going to
get tricky.
Also some information about the MicroVAX II itself would help. I assume
you've got RD5x drives on a RQDX3 controller? If you're lucky enough to
have a SCSI controller and have SCSI Hard Drives on the system then there is
another trick that should work as long as the disks are under 650MB.
Zane
29 Jun
29 Jun
2:39 a.m.
Thanks for the suggestion but I am tied to this
system because of legacy hardware and software.
I do need to be able to read the resulting CD-ROM
on a non-VMS box so now I am thing the thing to do is to
get the microVax II on a TCP/IP network and use
TCP/IP to pull the data off. I understand that the
DEQNA (later replaced by the DELNQ) board
provides an ethernet interface but I am wondering
where I could find TCP/IP compatible software
for microVMS 4.6. I know multinet exists for
openVMS but I have my doubts about it working with
this old a version or VMS. any ideas about this approach?
And you are right, I have two hard drives a
RQDX3-AA with a RD54 (159 MB disk)
and a
RQDAE-FQ with a RD53 (79 MB disk)
Dave
healyzh(a)aracnet.com wrote:
I am looking
for way to get data out of a microVax II
running microVMS 4.6 onto a CD ROM.
The way I figure it if I can find a CD writer than works in
that configuration I'm done. But I can't seem to find out
whether this is even possible let alone where to buy a CD
like this. Any suggestions?
If the CD Writer is an impossibility then my next approach
is the put a network interface on the uVax II and send the
data I need to a more recent vintage.
Unfortunatly you don't state what the resulting CD-ROM needs to be
readable on.
If it needs to be an ODS-2 CD-ROM your best bet looks to be to obtain a
VMS box with VMS V5.4 or newer. Though from the looks of things it really
should have V6.2 or newer. You can then use the following to create a disk
image that you can then burn to CD-R on a PC, Mac, or Unix box.
http://www.openvms.compaq.com/freeware/FREEWARE50/LD063/
If you need to read the CD-ROM on a non-VMS box, then things are going to
get tricky.
Also some information about the MicroVAX II itself would help. I assume
you've got RD5x drives on a RQDX3 controller? If you're lucky enough to
have a SCSI controller and have SCSI Hard Drives on the system then there is
another trick that should work as long as the disks are under 650MB.
Zane 
3:29 a.m.
CMU IP works on this set up ( well, does on mine anyway )
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Subject: Re: CD Writer for a uVax II
Author: petersd (petersd(a)SEDSystems.ca) at unix,mime
Date: 29/06/01 15:39
Thanks for the suggestion but I am tied to this
system because of legacy hardware and software.
I do need to be able to read the resulting CD-ROM
on a non-VMS box so now I am thing the thing to do is to
get the microVax II on a TCP/IP network and use
TCP/IP to pull the data off. I understand that the
DEQNA (later replaced by the DELNQ) board
provides an ethernet interface but I am wondering
where I could find TCP/IP compatible software
for microVMS 4.6. I know multinet exists for
openVMS but I have my doubts about it working with
this old a version or VMS. any ideas about this approach?
And you are right, I have two hard drives a
RQDX3-AA with a RD54 (159 MB disk)
and a
RQDAE-FQ with a RD53 (79 MB disk)
Dave
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I am looking
for way to get data out of a microVax II
running microVMS 4.6 onto a CD ROM.
The way I figure it if I can find a CD writer than works in
that configuration I'm done. But I can't seem to find out
whether this is even possible let alone where to buy a CD
like this. Any suggestions?
If the CD Writer is an impossibility then my next approach
is the put a network interface on the uVax II and send the
data I need to a more recent vintage.
Unfortunatly you don't state what the resulting CD-ROM needs to be
readable on.
If it needs to be an ODS-2 CD-ROM your best bet looks to be to obtain a
VMS box with VMS V5.4 or newer. Though from the looks of things it really
should have V6.2 or newer. You can then use the following to create a disk
image that you can then burn to CD-R on a PC, Mac, or Unix box.
http://www.openvms.compaq.com/freeware/FREEWARE50/LD063/
If you need to read the CD-ROM on a non-VMS box, then things are going to
get tricky.
Also some information about the MicroVAX II itself would help. I assume
you've got RD5x drives on a RQDX3 controller? If you're lucky enough to
have a SCSI controller and have SCSI Hard Drives on the system then there is
another trick that should work as long as the disks are under 650MB.
Zane 
4:05 a.m.
I have an external SCSI TK50 (TK50Z?) and an
internal mVAX TK50.
Anyone ever used these off of PeeCee architecture?
John A.
6:27 a.m.
On Fri, 29 Jun 2001, John Allain wrote:
I have an external SCSI TK50 (TK50Z?) and an
internal mVAX TK50.
Anyone ever used these off of PeeCee architecture?
The TK50Z will work as a standard sequential access (i.e. tape) device on the
SCSI bus. As long as the operating system driver supports SCSI-1 devices,
the drive should be usable.
-Hans
--
finger hans(a)huebner.org for details
4:38 a.m.
Thanks for the suggestion but I am tied to this
system because of legacy hardware and software.
I do need to be able to read the resulting CD-ROM
on a non-VMS box so now I am thing the thing to do is to
get the microVax II on a TCP/IP network and use
TCP/IP to pull the data off. I understand that the
DEQNA (later replaced by the DELNQ) board
provides an ethernet interface but I am wondering
where I could find TCP/IP compatible software
for microVMS 4.6. I know multinet exists for
openVMS but I have my doubts about it working with
this old a version or VMS. any ideas about this approach?
And you are right, I have two hard drives a
RQDX3-AA with a RD54 (159 MB disk)
and a
RQDAE-FQ with a RD53 (79 MB disk)
As others have pointed out, about you're only hope for a TCP/IP stack is
CMU-IP. Hopefully it works for MicroVMS and not just plain VMS. Multinet
only supports V5.5-2 and newer. I'm starting to think that if you've got a
spare serial port in the system you might actually want to consider Kermit.
Believe it or not, Kermit is still around and still being developed, and
it's probably the better solution for what you're trying to do (however,
I've got to confess I don't know anything about it, other than what it is).
Since this system obviously serves some important purpose, *please* say
you're doing backups of those drives to tape! If you're not backing them
up, please figure out how to!
If you are backing them up I'm assuming you're doing it to TK50 tapes. If
this is the case you could buy (very cheaply) something like a MicroVAX
3100 with a TZ30 drive, and have it running a modern version of VMS which
could more easily do what you want.
Zane
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