16 Aug
2001
16 Aug
'01
2:15 a.m.
What I
don't like is dog-and-pony shows, too much sturm und drang.
It's all about sturm und drang. Programming contests are another deal. They're
just about academic
programming. Demos are more like MTV on a computer screen.
Yeah, and I always considered MTV to be one big marketing
outlet. At least I appear to have this in perspective now...
I've always believed that consumers should research the products they
purchase, and that a good product will sell itself. Marketing merely
raises the ultimate costs of a product, so perhaps you'll understand
why I don't have a very high opinion of it. Or of a generation or
programmers who rose to serve marketing's needs.
Regards,
-dq
16 Aug
16 Aug
7:47 a.m.
On Thu, 16 Aug 2001, Douglas Quebbeman wrote:
Yeah, and I always considered MTV to be one big marketing
outlet. At least I appear to have this in perspective now...
You're so right. I've always resented the way MTV, radio stations, etc.
tell kids and young adults what music they are to like, and I doubly
resent the eagerness with which the subjects flock to obey.
Obligatory Rush lyric, from "The Spirit of Radio":
"One likes to believe in the freedom of music,
But glittering prizes and endless compromises
Shatter the illusion of integrity."
Or of a generation or programmers who rose to serve
marketing's needs.
I don't know if it's a property of the generation itself or just of Evil
Corps that have made it so, but there are certainly a good number of such
people. There's a very outspoken one that always ends up in at least one
of my CS classes every semester. Oh, and did I mention that he is
Microsoft's "student representative" for the University?
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17 Aug
17 Aug
8:49 a.m.
On Thu, 16 Aug 2001, charles hobbs wrote:
Douglas Quebbeman wrote:
Commercials? How does that encourage someone to purchase something?
One can just turn om the VCR, tape one's favorite videos and then
either make a tape or CD from the audio output.
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Yeah, and I always considered MTV to be one big
marketing
outlet. At least I appear to have this in perspective now...
What are videos anyway? Essentially, "commercials" for records and
songs...
11:46 a.m.
On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, R. D. Davis wrote:
(1) Many (most?) people in the target audience either don't have the
equipment or the intelligence to make the CDs.
(2) The traditional thing to do, and therefore, the thing that all the
sheep-people will be driven to do by their peers, is buy the CD. If this
ever changes, you can rest assured that the record industry suits will do
whatever is necessary to restore proper behavior in their subjects.
(3) The audio quality of the custom CDs will be much inferior to the
store-bought CDs.
--
Jeffrey S. Sharp
jss(a)subatomix.com
What are [music] videos anyway? Essentially,
"commercials" for
records and songs...
Commercials? How does that encourage someone to purchase something?
One can just turn om the VCR, tape one's favorite videos and then
either make a tape or CD from the audio output. 
16 Aug
16 Aug
9:54 p.m.
Douglas Quebbeman skrev:
> Programming contests are another deal. They're
just about academic
> programming. Demos are more like MTV on a computer screen.
Yeah, and I always considered MTV to be one big
marketing
outlet. At least I appear to have this in perspective now...
I don't care for MTV, and I share your opinion of it.
I've always believed that consumers should research
the products they
purchase, and that a good product will sell itself. Marketing merely
raises the ultimate costs of a product, so perhaps you'll understand
why I don't have a very high opinion of it. Or of a generation or
programmers who rose to serve marketing's needs.
You still don't get it. Demos have no marketing relevance whatsoever. They're
done just for the fun of it, and the prestige. They don't fulfill any needs
and don't claim to do it. I don't even see why I'm trying to explain to you,
you don't even seem to read what I write.
The generations of programmers who really rose to marketing needs were the
ones before the microcomputing boom. They really had no choice. The younger
generations could do it at home for the fun of it.
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