20 Mar
1998
20 Mar
'98
10:58 p.m.
I picked up an "HP 82143A Peripheral Printer" a little while ago. It
physically resembles the "HP 82162A Printer/Plotter" that is pictured,
attached to an HP-75, in a little book entitled "Computer in Your Pocket"
which reviews several early pocket and notebook computers.
Will the 82143A (the one I have) plug into an HP-75? Will it work with
anything else? What kind of battery does it take? Power connector?
Pinout of the 12-pin connector?
The printer still has a small roll of paper in it (about 2.25" wide) and I
wouldn't mind finding out if the thing still works.
I got it at a Salvation Army store, and there was no sign of whatever it
had been attached to.
Doug Spence
ds_spenc(a)alcor.concordia.ca
20 Mar
20 Mar
11:08 p.m.
On Sat, 21 Mar 1998, Doug Spence wrote:
I picked up an "HP 82143A Peripheral
Printer" a little while ago. It
physically resembles the "HP 82162A Printer/Plotter" that is pictured,
attached to an HP-75, in a little book entitled "Computer in Your Pocket"
which reviews several early pocket and notebook computers.
Will the 82143A (the one I have) plug into an HP-75? Will it work with
anything else? What kind of battery does it take? Power connector?
Pinout of the 12-pin connector?
I've got one someplace that I haven't used for years. I used it either
with the HP-75D I used to have, or the HP-41C I still have. The connector
is HP-IL, I think. You should be able to use it with just about any HP
that can talk HP-IL, and you can even find HP-IB (GPIB) to HP-IL
converters that might let you talk to it from machines with GPIB
interfaces.
-- Doug
21 Mar
21 Mar
11:18 p.m.
On Sat, 21 Mar 1998, Doug Yowza wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 1998, Doug Spence wrote:
Thanks for the info! I've not yet had the pleasure of meeting an HP
machine in real life, but when I do I'll look for the appropriate
connector. :)
BTW, would you happen to know if the batteries for this beastie are still
available? It looks like it takes a big boxy battery (about 3.5"x2"x1"?)
with both contacts on one face.
And the power connector on the back is fairly unusual, too.
There's a piece of metal on the left hand side, at the back, that swivels
out of the body of the printer. It that for attaching the printer to the
machine that's using it?
What's the three-position "mode" switch for? It has labels
"MAN",
"TRACE", and "NORM".
Thanks again!
Doug Spence
ds_spenc(a)alcor.concordia.ca
Will the 82143A (the one I have) plug into an
HP-75? Will it work with
anything else? What kind of battery does it take? Power connector?
Pinout of the 12-pin connector?
I've got one someplace that I haven't used for years. I used it either
with the HP-75D I used to have, or the HP-41C I still have. The connector
is HP-IL, I think. You should be able to use it with just about any HP
that can talk HP-IL, and you can even find HP-IB (GPIB) to HP-IL
converters that might let you talk to it from machines with GPIB
interfaces. 
23 Mar
23 Mar
11:30 a.m.
At 05:18 AM 3/22/98 -0500, you wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 1998, Doug Yowza wrote:
Nope, it's not HP-IL, the only connector that will fit the plug is in the
top of a HP-41. The HP-IL has two connectors, each has two pins and is
trapazodial shaped. One connector is male and the other female. There
are^H^H^H were jumpers cables made to fit them. You have to connect the
HP-IL stuff in a complete loop back to the controller, that's why EVERY
HP-IL device has two connectors.
On Sat, 21 Mar 1998, Doug Spence wrote:
Thanks for the info! I've not yet had the pleasure of meeting an HP
machine in real life, but when I do I'll look for the appropriate
connector. :) Will the 82143A (the one I have) plug into an
HP-75? Will it work with
anything else? What kind of battery does it take? Power connector?
Pinout of the 12-pin connector?
I've got one someplace that I haven't used for years. I used it either
with the HP-75D I used to have, or the HP-41C I still have. The connector
is HP-IL, I think. You should be able to use it with just about any HP
that can talk HP-IL, and you can even find HP-IB (GPIB) to HP-IL
converters that might let you talk to it from machines with GPIB
interfaces.
BTW, would you happen to know if the batteries for this beastie are still
available? It looks like it takes a big boxy battery (about 3.5"x2"x1"?)
with both contacts on one face.
Nope, they're out of production but I sell rebuilt ones. There are also
other places that sell rebuilt ones.
And the power connector on the back is fairly unusual, too.
Yes, but the 82059 charger is fairly common.
There's a piece of metal on the left hand side, at the back, that swivels
out of the body of the printer. It that for attaching the printer to the
machine that's using it?
No, it's for a security cable to lock the printer down. There was no way
to lock the 41 down. I know, I had two of them stolen. :-(
What's the three-position "mode" switch for? It has labels
"MAN",
"TRACE", and "NORM".
In the MAN(ual) position the printer only printed when it recieved a
print command. In the TRACE psition, it printed every program line and the
values in the stack. In the NORM(al) position, it printed when it received
a print command and it also printed when it received a display command.
Several other commands would also make it print in the normal position.
One of the intereesting features of the printer was that when you were
writing programs on the 41 and the printer was connected and you wanted to
add a comand to advance the paper or to print the X-register, you could
just press that key on the printer and the command would be inserted into
the program! That shows that this printer was not just a dumb output
device but actually part of the 41 system.
Joe
Thanks again!
Doug Spence
ds_spenc(a)alcor.concordia.ca
21 Mar
21 Mar
5:42 a.m.
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1:45 p.m.
Doug,
Your printer is made to work with the HP 41 calculator. The "plug" will
only fit the HP 41. It uses a HP 82033 battery pack. That's the same
battery that's used in the 82162 printer, HP 97 calculator and many other
HP products. That battery has 4 sub-C NiCad cells in it. The HP 82059
charger (USA version) is used to recharge the battery, it produces 8 VAC.
The cahrger alone is NOT powerfull enough to operate the printer. There is
no way to self test the printer, other than checking to see if it feeds
paper. This printer was largely replaced by the HP 82163 printer. The 163
printer uses the HP-IL interface and can be used with the HP-41, HP-71,
HP-75, HP-110 and other HP calculators and computers. Some of them like
the HP 75 and 110 come with the HP-IL interface built-in. The others
require an optional interface.
E-mail if you have any other questions.
Joe
At 04:58 AM 3/21/98 -0500, you wrote:
I picked up an "HP 82143A Peripheral Printer" a little while ago. It
physically resembles the "HP 82162A Printer/Plotter" that is pictured,
attached to an HP-75, in a little book entitled "Computer in Your Pocket"
which reviews several early pocket and notebook computers.
Will the 82143A (the one I have) plug into an HP-75? Will it work with
anything else? What kind of battery does it take? Power connector?
Pinout of the 12-pin connector?
The printer still has a small roll of paper in it (about 2.25" wide) and I
wouldn't mind finding out if the thing still works.
I got it at a Salvation Army store, and there was no sign of whatever it
had been attached to.
Doug Spence
ds_spenc(a)alcor.concordia.ca
11:35 p.m.
On Sat, 21 Mar 1998, Joe wrote:
Doug,
Your printer is made to work with the HP 41 calculator. The "plug" will
only fit the HP 41.
Oh. How lame. :/ Unless the HP 41 is cool in its own rite. :)
It uses a HP 82033 battery pack. That's the same
battery that's used in the 82162 printer, HP 97 calculator and many other
HP products. That battery has 4 sub-C NiCad cells in it.
OK thanks.
And thanks for the other info that I snipped.
It looks like this printer will sit on the shelf for a while and collect
dust. But it's darn cute! :)
Doug Spence
ds_spenc(a)alcor.concordia.ca
23 Mar
23 Mar
11:38 a.m.
At 05:35 AM 3/22/98 -0500, you wrote:
Well, you could sent it to me. I have at least 20 HP 41s!
On Sat, 21 Mar 1998, Joe wrote:
It's VERY cool! You wouldn't believe the things you can do with it. If
you ever have a chance to get one, GRAB IT!
Doug,
Your printer is made to work with the HP 41 calculator. The "plug" will
only fit the HP 41.
Oh. How lame. :/ Unless the HP 41 is cool in its own rite. :) It uses a HP 82033 battery pack. That's the
same
battery that's used in the 82162 printer, HP 97 calculator and many other
HP products. That battery has 4 sub-C NiCad cells in it.
OK thanks.
And thanks for the other info that I snipped.
It looks like this printer will sit on the shelf for a while and collect
dust. But it's darn cute! :)
You should see the tape drive! It's the same size and style and it's not
the usual audio tape kludge. It actually has high speed fast foward and
reverse and has a directory like a disk drive so the system knows where to
find each file instead of having to seach the entire tape like most old
tape systems. It can find and load a file in less than 30 seconds.
Joe
Doug Spence
ds_spenc(a)alcor.concordia.ca
21 Mar
21 Mar
1:54 p.m.
Doug,
PS I have the pin out of the 12 pins in the connector but they're part
of the HP-41 bus and wouldn't make any sense to you with a complete
description of the HP 41 architecture. For example, the 41 uses a 56 bit
serial data and address bus combined on a single line. The contents of the
other lines varies according to differernt sync signals and timing.
Joe
At 04:58 AM 3/21/98 -0500, you wrote:
I picked up an "HP 82143A Peripheral Printer" a little while ago. It
physically resembles the "HP 82162A Printer/Plotter" that is pictured,
attached to an HP-75, in a little book entitled "Computer in Your Pocket"
which reviews several early pocket and notebook computers.
Will the 82143A (the one I have) plug into an HP-75? Will it work with
anything else? What kind of battery does it take? Power connector?
Pinout of the 12-pin connector?
The printer still has a small roll of paper in it (about 2.25" wide) and I
wouldn't mind finding out if the thing still works.
I got it at a Salvation Army store, and there was no sign of whatever it
had been attached to.
Doug Spence
ds_spenc(a)alcor.concordia.ca
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