18 Jul
2003
18 Jul
'03
7:42 a.m.
disconnect the horn and use its button
Make sure you put a switch to toggle between horn and ham radio. I don't
know about other states, but you can't pass vehicle inspections in NJ
without a working horn.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
18 Jul
18 Jul
7:56 a.m.
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, chris wrote:
Use the airbag wires instead? ;)
-Toth
disconnect the
horn and use its button
Make sure you put a switch to toggle between horn and ham radio. I don't
know about other states, but you can't pass vehicle inspections in NJ
without a working horn. 
7:59 a.m.
you can't pass vehicle inspections in NJ without
a working horn.
Fred is in California. They didn't use to have vehicle safety inspections.
Don't know about the last eight years though. They're more worried
about their smog inspections.
At 12:38 PM 7/18/03 -0400, you wrote:
disconnect the
horn and use its button
Make sure you put a switch to toggle between horn and ham radio. I don't
know about other states, but you can't pass vehicle inspections in NJ
without a working horn.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net> 
8:31 a.m.
> >disconnect the horn and use its button
>Make sure you put a switch to toggle between horn and ham radio. I don't
>know about other states, but you can't pass vehicle inspections in NJ
>without a working horn.
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Mail List wrote:
Fred is in California. They didn't use to have
vehicle safety inspections.
Don't know about the last eight years though. They're more worried
about their smog inspections.
Oh boy are they! They don't trust the inspectors, so the test machine
must be connected directly to the state network with a dedicated line.
D'ya know how to test the emissions of a VW converted to electric?
A friend of mine could not satisfy the DMV until he welded a piece of pipe
to the underside for the "tailpipe test" (aka "rectal probe")
Thirty some years ago, while I was working at GSFC, I lived in Maryland.
I assembled a VW from scrap parts, but I made the serious mistake of
offending the inspector (in those days, Maryland had a one-time inspection
at transfer). He declared that my horn "wasn't loud enough". I had a
good relationship with "Dollar George"'s wrecking yard, so I RENTED all of
the horns that he had for a week (for $1).
I put in some relays, two extra batteries (one 6V, one 12V), and filled
the trunk and much of the wheel wells with horns. At the "reinspection
after repairs", the inspector put his head down next to the left front
fender and told me to honk the horn, .... It was loud enough.
BTW, they had no objection to the horn button being on the dash, instead
of the twisty wire in the steering column that comes out of the steering
gearbox.
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com
9:53 a.m.
Hi Fred,
Yes, those smog inspections are a real PITA. I got off easier than some though.
My pick up truck that I had back then, being a 3/4 ton, and my being in San
Diego
at the time ( where the smog requirements weren't as stringent as up in the LA
area ) made me only have to go through it once. Then, after the truck was
no more
and I only rode a motorcycle, I didn't have to worry about it with that either.
Back here on the east coast these safety inspections are a PITA. At least
it's now
just an annual requirement. It used to be every 6 months. Got a rejection
sticker
in the window of a truck right now, that is in safer running condition that
the truck
I drove in CA. Failed me because the heater/defroster blower went out. But that
truly does need to get changed. Trying to drive with fogged up windows would
be dangerous. But finding the time is one of the problems, also the heat and
humidity outside right now makes one want to stay inside when possible. Maybe
get to it in the fall.
I got rejected before for the horn not being loud enough too. My battery
was just
about dead and I had to jump start it to get it into the inspection bay, so
it was
not as loud as it would have been were my battery up to full charge and
voltage.
One thing they got going around here is the common practice of rejecting
you for
headlights being out of alignment. I had my headlights adjusted by a shop
that was
doing some steering gear work, and then drove over to the inspection
station right
afterwards, only to get rejected for headlight alignment. I paid them the
blood money
to readjust just to get through the inspection. Then, that vehicle was only
driven 250
miles the next year. Not much bouncing around to cause any change. But, the
next
inspection, they rejected it for headlight alignment again. I'd seen
something about
that in the local news, though in reference to a different inspection
station. I'd also
seen them reject vehicle after vehicle for headlight alignment while I was
waiting in
line for my inspection. I had a conversation with the state police, who
monitor and
license these inspection stations about that. They were considering taking
one in
that they knew was correct to see if they could catch them at it.
Best Regards
At 10:26 AM 7/18/03 -0700, you wrote:
>
>disconnect the horn and use its button
>Make sure you put a switch to toggle between horn and ham radio. I don't
>know about other states, but you can't pass vehicle inspections in NJ
>without a working horn.
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Mail List wrote:
Fred is in California. They didn't use to
have vehicle safety inspections.
Don't know about the last eight years though. They're more worried
about their smog inspections.
Oh boy are they! They don't trust the inspectors, so the test machine
must be connected directly to the state network with a dedicated line.
D'ya know how to test the emissions of a VW converted to electric?
A friend of mine could not satisfy the DMV until he welded a piece of pipe
to the underside for the "tailpipe test" (aka "rectal probe")
Thirty some years ago, while I was working at GSFC, I lived in Maryland.
I assembled a VW from scrap parts, but I made the serious mistake of
offending the inspector (in those days, Maryland had a one-time inspection
at transfer). He declared that my horn "wasn't loud enough". I had a
good relationship with "Dollar George"'s wrecking yard, so I RENTED all of
the horns that he had for a week (for $1).
I put in some relays, two extra batteries (one 6V, one 12V), and filled
the trunk and much of the wheel wells with horns. At the "reinspection
after repairs", the inspector put his head down next to the left front
fender and told me to honk the horn, .... It was loud enough.
BTW, they had no objection to the horn button being on the dash, instead
of the twisty wire in the steering column that comes out of the steering
gearbox.
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com 
19 Jul
19 Jul
6:11 a.m.
MGA's all had the horn on the dash. Amazing the number of stupid
inspectors that couldn't find it satring them in the face.
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Fred Cisin wrote:
M. K. Peirce
Rhode Island Computer Museum, Inc.
Shady Lea, Rhode Island
"Casta est quam nemo rogavit."
- Ovid
>
>disconnect the horn and use its button
>Make sure you put a switch to toggle between horn and ham radio. I don't
>know about other states, but you can't pass vehicle inspections in NJ
>without a working horn.
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Mail List wrote:
Fred is in California. They didn't use to
have vehicle safety inspections.
Don't know about the last eight years though. They're more worried
about their smog inspections.
Oh boy are they! They don't trust the inspectors, so the test machine
must be connected directly to the state network with a dedicated line.
D'ya know how to test the emissions of a VW converted to electric?
A friend of mine could not satisfy the DMV until he welded a piece of pipe
to the underside for the "tailpipe test" (aka "rectal probe")
Thirty some years ago, while I was working at GSFC, I lived in Maryland.
I assembled a VW from scrap parts, but I made the serious mistake of
offending the inspector (in those days, Maryland had a one-time inspection
at transfer). He declared that my horn "wasn't loud enough". I had a
good relationship with "Dollar George"'s wrecking yard, so I RENTED all of
the horns that he had for a week (for $1).
I put in some relays, two extra batteries (one 6V, one 12V), and filled
the trunk and much of the wheel wells with horns. At the "reinspection
after repairs", the inspector put his head down next to the left front
fender and told me to honk the horn, .... It was loud enough.
BTW, they had no objection to the horn button being on the dash, instead
of the twisty wire in the steering column that comes out of the steering
gearbox.
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com
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