On Fri, 12 Sep 2014, Noel Chiappa wrote:
From: Tothwolf
FCI bought out Dupont's connector division a
long time ago, so what you
are looking for is FCI's Mini-PV series.
...
I'd advise against buying these type of contacts on eBay. 99% of the
"Berg" or "Dupont" contacts on eBay are knock-offs and don't
have
decent plating (gold flash, if they have any gold on them at all) and
aren't made to have the correct gripping force. .. they might not even
fit a real HT-95.
Hi, thanks for all that great info. The 'gold flash' issue was new to me;
for those who are likewise unfamiliar with it, I found this nice write-up:
http://www.dfrsolutions.com/uploads/white-papers/Gold_Flash.pdf
Alas, I've already ordered some of the 'eBay knockoff' pins; when they get
here, I will look them over, and if poor quality, take appropriate action...
A lot of the knock-off China import contacts don't even have a nickle
underplating. They just put gold flash right over the brass (or whatever
Chinese Mystery Metal they happen to be using in their stamping machine
that day). These might as well not even have gold on them, since the
nickel is what helps prevent corrosion of the underlying base metal. This
has been a huge problem with modular plugs used for cheap network cables
too. The contacts in the plugs will corrode green right though the thin
gold flash "plating".
I try to avoid knock-off connectors for these and other reasons. OTOH, I
will certainly buy old stock surplus parts when I can find genuine stuff
and when RoHS isn't a concern (counterfeit AMP/Tyco parts is a huge
problem in the surplus market, though). Connectors are the weak point in a
signal path anyway, and using inferior parts is usually just asking for
trouble.
Try comparing a genuine FCI/Berg housing and a knock-off too. Even the
feel of the plastic (genuine parts are often made with glass-filled nylon)
is totally different.
The reason I mentioned possibly not fitting a HT-95 though, is the dies in
these tools are small and somewhat fragile. If a poorly made knock-off
contact were to rotate or jam in the nest, it could easily cause damage to
the die. A set of replacement dies often costs more than a used tool.
From: John
Wilson
Digikey 3M9123-ND (3M 3435-0 "conn socket
keying plug") is the version
that fits into an IDC connector.
By pure chance, I later discovered, as I was reading the writeup on the
DLV11-J, that they gave AMP part numbers for the shell (10-pin, I assume),
contacts, and plug (they call it a "key pin"), and they seem to still work.
Here they are, if anyone has any use for them:
87133-5 Connector shell
87124-1 Contact
87179-1 Keying pin
How odd to find them in the DEC Interfaces Handbook!
So was DEC using both AMP AMPMODU and Berg connectors for the cables? It
seems strange they would use both. AMP and Berg contacts/connector shells
aren't interchangeable and they use completely different tooling to crimp
the contacts. AMP was bought out by Tyco Electronics (now calling
themselves "TE") quite a number of years ago but most of the AMPMODU line
is still readily available. Like the Berg/FCI stuff, there are dozens of
different types of AMP contacts that fit the same connector shells.