4 Apr
2005
4 Apr
'05
7:46 a.m.
A person in Fulham, London, UK, is trying to give away 3 Sun3
workstations & not having much interest. Anyone fancy one?
Mail them directly. I've talked to them & they asked me to plug the
machines if I could. I'd love one myself but I have no space for them.
:?(
From: Kake L Pugh <kake at earth.li>
Date: Apr 4, 2005 11:58 AM
Subject: [FreeCycleLondon] OFFERED: Sun 3 computers, SW6
To: freecyclelondon at yahoogroups.com
Note: these are old computers, and they are large. You will need a car.
Collect before Sunday 17th April, please. Take one, two, or all three!
We're in SW6, just off Fulham Palace Road.
Two of the machines are diskless, but it's straightforward to boot them
over the network, and I'd be happy to lend a hand to get them to do so.
The enormous monitors mean they make excellent X terminals with nice big
text. You can boot them straight into X, or you can run an OS on them in
diskless mode. I've run SunOS 4 and NetBSD on them; I believe it's now
possible to run linux as well.
snack has a disk with SunOS installed, so doesn't need to boot over the
network. It has a hybrid X server which supports the NeWS windowing
system.
stinky:
Sun 3/50, 4MB RAM, 16MHz 68020 CPU with floating-point coprocessor
pizzabox case
10base2 ethernet
Huge 1152x900 monochrome monitor
snipe:
Sun 3/140, 16MHz 68020 with floating-point coprocessor.
3-VME-slot case: can either sit flat with a monitor on top,
or stand freely.
Huge 1152x900 monochrome monitor
AUI network (but I can throw in an AUI->10base2 transceiver free)
This machine has no fan! It's very quiet as a result.
snack:
Sun 3/60, 20MHz 68020 with floating-point coprocessor.
pizzabox case
colour framebuffer and colour monitor
10base2 ethernet
~100MB disk drive with SunOS and OpenWindows installed
See http://www.sunstuff.org/hardware/systems/sun3/ for more details.
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4 Apr
4 Apr
8:06 a.m.
On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 15:46 +0100, Liam Proven wrote:
A person in Fulham, London, UK, is trying to give away
3 Sun3
workstations & not having much interest. Anyone fancy one?
...
Sun 3/50, 4MB RAM, 16MHz 68020 CPU with floating-point coprocessor
Sun 3/140, 16MHz 68020 with floating-point coprocessor.
Sun 3/60, 20MHz 68020 with floating-point coprocessor.
Possible I could take the 3/60 and 3/140 for the museum if nobody else
wants (will email the person and let them know this).
We've already got a 3/50 so not much point us having another one (unless
it's got a 3rd party memory expansion board in it). I doubt I'd get all
three in the car anyway (for weight reasons rather than space)
cheers
Jules
10:20 a.m.
Oh good. If I had the space, I'd love them myself, but my house is
already full of computers as it is.
Best mail him, not me; I'm merely passing on the message!
On Apr 4, 2005 4:06 PM, Jules Richardson <julesrichardsonuk at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 15:46 +0100, Liam Proven wrote:
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A person in Fulham, London, UK, is trying to give
away 3 Sun3
workstations & not having much interest. Anyone fancy one?
...
Sun 3/50, 4MB RAM, 16MHz 68020 CPU with floating-point coprocessor
Sun 3/140, 16MHz 68020 with floating-point coprocessor.
Sun 3/60, 20MHz 68020 with floating-point coprocessor.
Possible I could take the 3/60 and 3/140 for the museum if nobody else
wants (will email the person and let them know this).
We've already got a 3/50 so not much point us having another one (unless
it's got a 3rd party memory expansion board in it). I doubt I'd get all
three in the car anyway (for weight reasons rather than space)
cheers
Jules
11:42 a.m.
On Apr 4, 2005 4:06 PM, Jules Richardson <julesrichardsonuk at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 15:46 +0100, Liam Proven wrote:
As I'm coming up there with a van I could pick them up for you, but
I'm not coming up until the 24th.
Dan
A person in Fulham, London, UK, is trying to give
away 3 Sun3
workstations & not having much interest. Anyone fancy one?
...
Sun 3/50, 4MB RAM, 16MHz 68020 CPU with floating-point coprocessor
Sun 3/140, 16MHz 68020 with floating-point coprocessor.
Sun 3/60, 20MHz 68020 with floating-point coprocessor.
Possible I could take the 3/60 and 3/140 for the museum if nobody else
wants (will email the person and let them know this).
We've already got a 3/50 so not much point us having another one (unless
it's got a 3rd party memory expansion board in it). I doubt I'd get all
three in the car anyway (for weight reasons rather than space)
cheers
Jules
8 Apr
8 Apr
10:49 a.m.
On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 19:42 +0100, Dan Williams wrote:
Now in the back of my car :)
Had to go to Fulham to help pick up a Pr1me 750 mini earlier and these
machines were only just down the road, so I grabbed them at the same
time. There was no sign of the 3/50 but we've already got one of those
and they're pretty dull hardware-wise anyway - no great loss!
Won't get a chance to look the Sun stuff over until tomorrow though...
cheers
Jules
Possible I
could take the 3/60 and 3/140 for the museum if nobody else
wants (will email the person and let them know this).
As I'm coming up there with a van I could pick them up for you, but
I'm not coming up until the 24th.
9 Apr
9 Apr
8:41 a.m.
On Apr 8, 2005 6:49 PM, Jules Richardson <julesrichardsonuk at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Now in the back of my car :)
Had to go to Fulham to help pick up a Pr1me 750 mini earlier and these
machines were only just down the road, so I grabbed them at the same
time. There was no sign of the 3/50 but we've already got one of those
and they're pretty dull hardware-wise anyway - no great loss!
Won't get a chance to look the Sun stuff over until tomorrow though...
Oh splendid!
Oddly enough, Kake (Kate/Kaet), the young lady getting rid of them,
was at my house this morning. Her B/F has just rented my spare room...
This house now has, by any reasonable definition, an *excessive*
number of computers. I must get rid of some, somehow...
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2:22 p.m.
On Sat, 2005-04-09 at 16:41 +0100, Liam Proven wrote:
On Apr 8, 2005 6:49 PM, Jules Richardson
<julesrichardsonuk at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Heh, the world gets smaller every day!
Only got a chance to look at the 3/60 in the end, the 3/140 sat in the
corridor as I ran out of time - 3/60 looks to be nice and healthy
though. (Far as I know the 3/140's supposed to be in working order too
though)
Now in the back of my car :)
Had to go to Fulham to help pick up a Pr1me 750 mini earlier and these
machines were only just down the road, so I grabbed them at the same
time. There was no sign of the 3/50 but we've already got one of those
and they're pretty dull hardware-wise anyway - no great loss!
Won't get a chance to look the Sun stuff over until tomorrow though...
Oh splendid!
Oddly enough, Kake (Kate/Kaet), the young lady getting rid of them,
was at my house this morning. Her B/F has just rented my spare room... This house now has, by any reasonable definition, an
*excessive*
number of computers. I must get rid of some, somehow...
Heh :) I saw an Ultra 5 in the pile of stuff that the guy was packing
up; didn't get a chance to see what else the chap had though. He sounded
keen to come up to Bletchley sometime and see everything though :)
cheers
Jules
10 Apr
10 Apr
12:48 a.m.
On Apr 9, 2005 5:22 PM, Jules Richardson <julesrichardsonuk at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
...3/60 looks to be nice and healthy
Cool. I have a 3/60 in the basement, with color frame buffer. ISTR I
checked it out via serial console and that was fine. It's been
sitting for a couple of years, waiting for me to get around to
finishing a Sun3/Sun4 keyboard/mouse adapter. I _have_ an optical
mouse with the modular connector and the gold studs, but no Sun3
keyboard. The protocols are the same, so I just have to finish a
DIN8-DA15 adapter and use slightly more modern external parts. Once
that's done, I have to track down a SunOS kit. I _think_ I have a
4.0.3 kit or something similar on QIC tape. If 4.1.3_U1 still works
on a 3/60, I can probably borrow that locally on CD-ROM.
This is entirely for the exercise... I have more modern and slightly
off-topic machines (sun4m) for production server use.
-ethan
2:52 a.m.
On Sun, 2005-04-10 at 03:48 -0400, Ethan Dicks wrote:
On Apr 9, 2005 5:22 PM, Jules Richardson
<julesrichardsonuk at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
This one has the colour framebuffer, too. Works just fine - I tried it
on the Sun 4/330 though but get a blank screen there unfortunately (I
was hoping that whilst the 4/330 has bust serial hardware it might still
drive a framebuffer ok and allow us to use that as console).
Not checked the 4/330 for jumpers to force it to use the framebuffer yet
(if it has any), nor plugged a keyboard in (maybe it needs to detect a
keyboard before it'll swap over to using any framebuffer for output).
Possible that the system ROMs don't contain any framebuffer code of
course (they're not labelled as Sun parts) or that this 3/60's
framebuffer is simply incompatible with the 4/330 anyway...
...3/60 looks to be nice and healthy
Cool. I have a 3/60 in the basement, with color frame buffer. ISTR I
checked it out via serial console and that was fine. It's been
sitting for a couple of years, waiting for me to get around to
finishing a Sun3/Sun4 keyboard/mouse adapter.
It's the little things that always take the time!
that's done, I have to track down a SunOS kit. I
_think_ I have a
4.0.3 kit or something similar on QIC tape. If 4.1.3_U1 still works
on a 3/60, I can probably borrow that locally on CD-ROM.
I think our 3/60 is running 4.1.1.
It came with a bunch of tapes, a couple of which are marked as being
4.1.1 OS install - but they're copies and one is marked as being
possibly bad. I'll try backing them up to my desktop sometime though;
with a known-good and cleaned tape drive maybe they'll read OK.
cheers
Jules
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