23 Nov
2010
23 Nov
'10
1:34 p.m.
I'm trying to identify and find some early if not first specific production
DRAM chips for a project at the Computer History Museum. I've poked quite a
bit about on the web and found lots of good generic information but not much
about specific pioneering devices after the Mostek 16 KiB circa 1976. In
particular I'm interested in the first and/or early vendors of the following
parts
1) 256 Kib DRAM circa 1983 probably from Japanese vendors
2) 16 Mib DRAM circ 1989 IC Master unknown vendors
3) 1 GiB DRAM circa 2000, probably Micron.
I'm looking for a shipment date, photo, chip size and price information.
However, just a vendor name and part number would be a great starting place.
If any of u have or know of some one who has old IC Master's of the
appropriate era that would be a great place to get vendor, part number and
other information.
Any help would be appreciated.
Tom
23 Nov
23 Nov
11:12 a.m.
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Tom Gardner wrote:
1) 256 KB DRAM circa 1983 probably from Japanese
vendors
2) 16 MB DRAM circ 1989 IC Master unknown vendors
3) 1 GB DRAM circa 2000, probably Micron.
There. Fixed that for you. :)
g.
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3:28 p.m.
Gene Buckle wrote:
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Tom Gardner wrote:
LOL! Close but no cigar. You got 'B'ytes where you want 'b'its :-)
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1) 256 KB DRAM circa 1983 probably from Japanese
vendors
2) 16 MB DRAM circ 1989 IC Master unknown vendors
3) 1 GB DRAM circa 2000, probably Micron.
There. Fixed that for you. :)
3:28 p.m.
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Pete Turnbull wrote:
Gene Buckle wrote:
Well shit. It was the thought that counts I suppose. *laughs*
BTW, for the sim geeks out there:
http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll/collimated_display.html :D
(yeah, I'm very, very proud of that!)
g.
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Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical
minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which
holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd
by the clean end.
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Tom Gardner wrote:
LOL! Close but no cigar. You got 'B'ytes where you want 'b'its :-)
1) 256 KB DRAM circa 1983 probably from Japanese
vendors
2) 16 MB DRAM circ 1989 IC Master unknown vendors
3) 1 GB DRAM circa 2000, probably Micron.
There. Fixed that for you. :) 
6:20 p.m.
On 11/23/10 6:28 PM, Gene Buckle wrote:
BTW, for the sim geeks out there:
http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll/collimated_display.html :D
(yeah, I'm very, very proud of that!)
Wow...WOW! As well you should be!
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
4:06 p.m.
New subject: collimation... (was DRAM HISTORY)
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 11/23/10 6:28 PM, Gene Buckle wrote:
Thanks Dave. We discovered as soon as the mirror formed that there was no
dignified way for grown men to giggle like little girls. *laughs*
g.
--
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical
minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which
holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd
by the clean end.
BTW, for the sim geeks out there:
http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll/collimated_display.html :D
(yeah, I'm very, very proud of that!)
Wow...WOW! As well you should be!
8:27 p.m.
New subject: collimation... (was DRAM HISTORY)
On 11/23/10 7:06 PM, Gene Buckle wrote:
Thanks Dave. We discovered as soon as the mirror formed that there was
no dignified way for grown men to giggle like little girls. *laughs*
I'll bet! ;)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
BTW, for the sim geeks out there:
http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll/collimated_display.html :D
(yeah, I'm very, very proud of that!)
Wow...WOW! As well you should be!
11:55 p.m.
New subject: collimation... (was DRAM HISTORY)
Gene Buckle wrote:
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Dave McGuire wrote:
Who cares! That is cool!
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Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
On 11/23/10 6:28 PM, Gene Buckle wrote:
Thanks Dave. We discovered as soon as the mirror formed that there was
no dignified way for grown men to giggle like little girls. *laughs* BTW, for the sim geeks out there:
http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll/collimated_display.html :D
(yeah, I'm very, very proud of that!)
Wow...WOW! As well you should be!
6:43 p.m.
> BTW, for the sim geeks out there:
> http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll/collimated_display.html :D
I'm speechless :oO
4:46 p.m.
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010, Alexandre Souza - Listas wrote:
I know the feeling. :)
g.
--
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical
minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which
holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd
by the clean end.
> BTW, for
the sim geeks out there:
> http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll/collimated_display.html :D
I'm speechless :oO 
3:42 p.m.
On 2010 Nov 23, at 1:34 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
I'm trying to identify and find some early if not
first specific
production
DRAM chips for a project at the Computer History Museum. I've poked
quite a
bit about on the web and found lots of good generic information but
not much
about specific pioneering devices after the Mostek 16 KiB circa 1976.
In
particular I'm interested in the first and/or early vendors of the
following
parts
1) 256 Kib DRAM circa 1983 probably from Japanese vendors
2) 16 Mib DRAM circ 1989 IC Master unknown vendors
3) 1 GiB DRAM circa 2000, probably Micron.
I'm looking for a shipment date, photo, chip size and price
information.
However, just a vendor name and part number would be a great starting
place.
If any of u have or know of some one who has old IC Master's of the
appropriate era that would be a great place to get vendor, part number
and
other information.
Any help would be appreciated.
I have the IC Master from 1982. I'm not sure it is going to help any as
I think it is in-between major developments.
The short of it: 64Kb are the largest DRAMs mentioned (4164, 6664,
etc.), and every major manufacturer is producing them (Fairchild,
Inmos, Intel, Mostek, Motorola, National, TI, Fujitsu, Hitachi,
Mitsubishi, NEC, OKI, Toshiba.) Fastest is 100nS.
If you'd like any more details from the book, let me know.
--
On 2010 Nov 23, at 11:12 AM, Gene Buckle wrote:
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Tom Gardner wrote:
OK .. but shouldn't those be Kb, not KB?
1) 256 KB DRAM circa 1983 probably from Japanese
vendors
2) 16 MB DRAM circ 1989 IC Master unknown vendors
3) 1 GB DRAM circa 2000, probably Micron.
There. Fixed that for you. :) 
3:57 p.m.
Speaking of which does anyone have any info on EA1500 DRAMs?
I vaguely recall they are 1024x1 70 nS external sense amp (1974 date code)
(I have a couple here removed from a Singer system 11 proto)
Peter Wallace
Mesa Electronics
4:05 p.m.
On 2010 Nov 23, at 3:57 PM, Peter C. Wallace wrote:
Speaking of which does anyone have any info on EA1500
DRAMs?
I vaguely recall they are 1024x1 70 nS external sense amp (1974 date
code)
(I have a couple here removed from a Singer system 11 proto)
The 1982 IC Master continues to list the 1103 (and a Nortec 6002 1K
DRAM), but no luck for the EA 1500.
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