Ran across one each of these at a local thrift. Each in original box, though they have seen some "miles". The TI is a beige case and looks pretty clean. The Vic20 comes with the cassette drive and both look like they need a bath. If anyone is interested in either/both, email me off list and I'll confirm their availability and price and try to estimate shipping costs. If they have a bathroom scale there, I can probably come fairly close on shipping costs given the target Zip code. - don