18 Feb
1999
18 Feb
'99
8:34 a.m.
Security concerns?
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Subject: What the hell is this!!! was Re: I need a ST-419 hard drive
Author: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu at internet
Date: 2/18/99 2:19 PM
On Wed, 17 Feb 1999, Joe wrote:
> I need a Seagate ST-419 to replace one that failed in a HP computer.
> Anyone got one to spare?
I opened up the 419 drive, No wonder it failed, someone drilled a 5/16"
hole thru the cover and all three platters! This thing was mounted under a
circuit board and inside a steel case. Everything was very neatly put back
together. Who would go to that much trouble to wreck a drive and why?
Joe
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18 Feb
18 Feb
11:25 a.m.
On Wed, 17 Feb 1999, Joe wrote:
I opened up the 419 drive, No wonder it failed,
someone drilled a 5/16"
hole thru the cover and all three platters!
At 02:34 PM 2/18/99 -0500, Marty wrote:
Security concerns?
Precisely. In fact I believe that this is standard drive decomissioning
procedure. I've seen entire pallets of drives mutilated in just that
fashion at Berman.
--Chuck
6:54 p.m.
At 02:25 PM 2/18/99 -0800, you wrote:
Standard for who? US DOD requires they be dissolved in acid. Drilling
would certainly be safer, cheaper and faster but not totally secure.
Joe
Security
concerns?
Precisely. In fact I believe that this is standard drive decomissioning
procedure. I've seen entire pallets of drives mutilated in just that
fashion at Berman. 
5:33 p.m.
Standard for who? US DOD requires they be
dissolved in acid. Drilling
would certainly be safer, cheaper and faster but not totally secure.
For a slower but perhaps even more effective method, how about giving the
disk to a technically inclined seven-year-old with access to his dad's tool
set? :-)
- Joe
8:14 p.m.
At 08:33 PM 2/18/99 -0800, you wrote:
I had one woman call me and ask my advice about how to render a
non-working drive totally unreadable since they had confidental business
information on it. My advice was to take the drive out of the computer and
smash it up with an axe. She told me later that that she got enormous
satisfaction out of mangling it!
Joe
Standard
for who? US DOD requires they be dissolved in acid. Drilling
would certainly be safer, cheaper and faster but not totally secure.
For a slower but perhaps even more effective method, how about giving the
disk to a technically inclined seven-year-old with access to his dad's tool
set? :-)
19 Feb
19 Feb
10:16 a.m.
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18 Feb
7:53 p.m.
On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, Joe wrote:
At 02:25 PM 2/18/99 -0800, you wrote:
Standard for who? US DOD requires they be dissolved in acid. Drilling
would certainly be safer, cheaper and faster but not totally secure.
Joe
I picked up an ST-157N at a swapmeet sometime back with a sticker on it
indicating that it had been degaussed in accordance with NSA standards.
It was rather thorough. They even degaussed the magnets in the spin
motor!
- don
Security
concerns?
Precisely. In fact I believe that this is standard drive decomissioning
procedure. I've seen entire pallets of drives mutilated in just that
fashion at Berman.
12:16 p.m.
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6:36 p.m.
At 02:34 PM 2/18/99 -0500, you wrote:
Security concerns?
Maybe but no very effective since 99+% of the disk is intact and all that
data could be recovered. When I worked at Martin Marietta, we removed the
hard drives and dissolved them in acid per DOD requirement. At first we
dissolved the entire computer in acid but it finally dawned on them that
that wasn't necessary. Hmm, I wonder if that's one reason why there are so
few old computers left?
Joe
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