It could be him, but its over thirty years ago and of course remember I him as he was not as he maybe now. I worked for the Terminals Product Line and sold VT100's and LA36's to resellers and OEM's in the UK. The target margin per unit may not have been reached. However the volume was so high and the economies of scale such that over all DEC made lots of profit from what became the industry standard. Rod -----Original Message----- From: cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Tore Sinding Bekkedal Sent: 16 December 2007 18:56 To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: RE: 4004 and IC history / was Re: Vintage computer photogallery On Thu, 2007-10-18 at 13:04 +0100, Rod Smallwood wrote: I believe you may be referring to Mike Leis. I snapped a photo of him at a DEC reunion at The Mill: http://gunkies.org/photos/mill/big/img_3513.jpg Amongst other things, he told me that DEC considered the VT100 to be a failure, since it never met the profit margin outlined in the project proposal. The main reason they created the VT100 was because the VT52 was quite hard to mass produce automatically. -Tore