18 May
1999
18 May
'99
7:34 a.m.
Here's a bit of a report of what I found at the Hamvention. I was there on
Friday from about 09:15 to 17:30 except lunch for which we went off the
grounds and on Saturday from about 08:00 to 13:30. Therefore with my method
of checking every promising box and poking around under tables I saw about
3/4 of the whole fleamarket. I was looking for quite a variety of things
-not just old computers.
Stuff I dragged home were two DG Ones (model 2208A), two DG printers which
go with them (model 2230), one AC power supply and one printer cable all
for $15; VMEbus boards including one unopened Force Computers SYS68Y DRAM-2
memory board ($5) and four Motorola CODEX boards, $15; an IOMEGA Ditto Easy
3200 external tape drive (Travan 3) with cable and power supply, $25.
And my best find of all: a virtually mint, seemingly unused HP9000/300
computer with 7958B hard drive (150 Mb IIRC) and 9144A 16-track tape drive.
A label on the 98574 CPU module indicated it's been upgraded to a 375 which
is just about the ultimate of the 300-series. A 68030 processor running at
50MHz and 16 Mb of RAM. Nice!
I've been casually looking for one of the 300's for a couple of years. My
ex-colleague who's an engineering manager from my ex-company's German
parent company told me last week when he visited the house that an HP
9000/332 system was promised to me and will be shipped to me from their
Chicago facility late this year.
My new 9000/375 system was built into a 19" rack enclosure which was in
turn bolted into a fiberglas transit case about 3' tall, 2' wide by about
2.5' deep. It was part of a military surplus system. I did not get a chance
to find the AN system designation on the rack or case, just that it weighed
97 pounds and required two persons to carry.
Apparently it had been built and not used *ever*. Just stuck in a military
warehouse probably as a result of a military contract which didn't go
anywhere or as a result of the Cold War ceasing or something. I absolutely
cannot see *any* dust on the leading edges of the fan blades so this system
has maybe only an hour or two at most of operation :) SNs are from mid-89.
There's a Federal Stock Number or system part number rubber stamped onto
the right side of the computer box. A probably earlier FSN or contractor's
PN has been blacked out with paint (about 3/8" x 1.5" strip) and the
present number rubber stamped onto the case after the upgrade to the 375
model was done. A little ugly, but what the hey! It shows a bit about the
original purpose of the machine. That's the only indication of any special
use of it. The update was done in December '91 according to a date
handwritten on the CPU board tag inside.
I was passing by the previous owner's space when I overheard one of the
guys asking "What is it?" as they were taking the cover off the 7958B box
to try and figure out just what *it* was. I looked and saw the main box was
a 300 system (Whoa!! Let's stop and look!), became interested and checked
it out. I offered an explanation as to what it was, what it was usually
used for, typical processors used in the 300's, etc. Apparently the
then-new owner who'd just dragged it to his space from a nearby surplus
dealer didn't see a use for it for himself and offered the HP 9000 items to
me and I paid him nearly all the remaining money I had to spend: $40 for
all three boxes. He kept the transit case and 19" rack which bolted inside
as he had a use for it back at home in Houston. He didn't recognize at
first when he bought the whole transit case (for $50) that those 3 HP boxes
which were clamped onto rack slide plates were actually a computer. He was
happy somebody got it who knew what it was and could use it and he was
happy to have the transit case. I love happiness :-) Only thing I had to
promise him was to email him with what I found on the disk. He's a UNI*
system admin and had enough UNI* machines of his own. I'm surprised he
hadn't seen an HP 9000 machine before but these 300's were obsolete some
time ago and he indicated he was always an Intel-based UNI* user.
I've got a copy of HP-UX 7.0 on tape with the license, both still
shrinkwrapped, and manual set that I've had for some time. Now I've got a
machine to hang it upon! :) BTW, ver. 7.0 is near or at the end of HP-UX
support for the 300's. Have BASIC-UX ver. 5.0 w/license and docs too!
The keyboard and monitor were some sort of rugged, militarized things built
into an operator's station. The fellow who had it never got from the
surplus dealer as it obviously didn't quite interest him and maybe he
didn't realize what it was. If it's what I *think* I saw an hour or so
earlier at a surplus dealer's space not far away it definitelly wasn't the
normal HP keyboard as it was part of some other section of the system used
as the operations console and was connected via AN/MS connectors and
cables. Have absolutely no idea as to the function of the whole system. If
there's something on the hard disk when it comes up it may give me a good
clue. But I gotta get it lit up first.
So, does anybody have a very decent looking keyboard and HP-HIL k'bd cable
they're willing to sell to me? Keyboard model *I think* should be a 46020
or 46021 or a 98203C. I don't know the exact differences as I have no
pictures or specs. but they are mentioned in the "Peripheral Installation
Guide for the HP 9000 Series 200/300", which I have had for some time, as
being used with the 300-series. I'll post a separate request for a k'brd
and other info in a separate msg. later today or tomorrow. Need feet for
bottom of the boxes too but probably large stick-on rubber feet should be okay.
I've got two old non-HP fixed frequency monitors I'll drag out of the
garage and try after I get a k'bd. The video interface card is a 98547A
which is not mentioned in the Periph. Inst. Guide.
I saw a few DEC items: A rather lonely RL02 standing amongst a bunch of
fairly new amateur gear; a VT320 and VT 420 with a few of DEC's serial
cables; a couple of AUI-to-BNC translator modules for $10 each (Too much?
Just right?) and little else that I could see.
Bought a couple more Ethernet NICs for $10 new (Intel 8/16); 3.5-to-5.25"
floppy adaptors for $1 each; 25' CAT5 cables for $3 each; "The Hard Disk
Technical Guide", "The Modem Tech. Guide", and "The Network Tech.
Guide"
all w/CDROMs, published by Micro House, for $5 each; misc. cables and bits.
Hard disks were even cheaper than I'd ever seen but had no extra bucks to
spend, dang it.
Also saw a pallet full (4' x 4' x 5' high) of Sun SPARC LX boxen; a Grid
computer, don't know exact model as I don't know Grids, but I'd wager it
was early. No model # on bottom or back. It weighed a ton it seemed,
painted black. Guy wanted $30 but by then I was flat broke by then :( ;
lots of C64 and C128 machines and accessories; tons of PeeCee stuff of all
ages and condx; pallets full of printers and monitors; lots of IBM
MicroChannel machines and boards; several HP Vectras; boxes of network
stuff of varying conditions and types; boxes of shrinkwrapped software;
bunches of other stuff I can't recall at the moment. Lots and lots of
amateur radio gear of course.
I wish I had more money to spend there dang it!
Importantly, I did score a few really hard to find parts for the WWII
BC-191F transmitter I'm trying to restore plus a few military connectors
for some gear in the collection; also got a couple of test equipment
manuals for units I have in the collection. Still wish I had more $$$ so I
could get more old gear and parts! Dang.
Saw a couple of antique radio collector friends from other distant parts of
the country; made contacts with a couple of folks who may have parts for
the BC-191 and the virtually identical BC-375 transmitters. Understand from
another email list (Greenkeys) that a couple of fellow teletype collectors
were there too. Not much TTY gear to be found though :( May have bumped
into one of you ClassicCmp folks but we wouldn't have known each other
visually.
All-in-all a very good time. Free shuttle buses running frequently all day
every day between the several distant parking areas (we parked free at the
Salem Mall) and that made it very convenient to haul a heavy object or
several bag loads back to the car :)
Something for everybody there. Rain held off on Fri and Sat was really
beautiful. I may go again someday as my uncle lives in nearby Xenia, OH and
I have basically free room and board :) Only 360 miles from home so I don't
have too much of an excuse not to go especially if after I find a decent
paying job and could have extra $$ to spend.
Wonder what the attendance was this year? No motel rooms available within a
75 mile or more radius. Columbus area was reported to be closest rooms.
Incidentally, you locals may have noticed there's quite a different scene
at Mendelson's Surplus in the past year or so. We went there to pickup a
Hamvention ticket for myself and I was pleasantly surprised. New minor
league baseball stadium being built across the street, an audio store just
opened inside the main building, new parking lot in back of the church, a
new Mendelson's outlet store next door across the new parking lot. But it
apparently still has the good ol' 3rd floor full of all kinds of parts,
equipment and untold amounts of obscure goodies! :-)
Yes indeed, next year :)
Regards, Chris
-- --
Christian Fandt, Electronic/Electrical Historian
Jamestown, NY USA cfandt(a)netsync.net
Member of Antique Wireless Association
URL: http://www.ggw.org/awa
18 May
18 May
8:32 a.m.
New subject: HP 9000/300 (was: Dayton)
Re:
HP 9000/3xx and HP-UX:
machine to hang it upon! :) BTW, ver. 7.0 is near or
at the end of HP-UX
support for the 300's. Have BASIC-UX ver. 5.0 w/license and docs too!
Our 9000/350 has HP-UX 8.x on it, IIRC (can't power it up just now),
and some users inside HP were known to run 9.0 on some models
(68030 and bigger?), but it was never officially supported (I think).
Have BASIC-UX ver. 5.0 w/license and docs too!
Wow!
I've got two old non-HP fixed frequency monitors
I'll drag out of the
garage and try after I get a k'bd. The video interface card is a 98547A
which is not mentioned in the Periph. Inst. Guide.
98547A : High Resolution, six-plane color, bit-mapped graphics
board, 1024x768 pixels. List price in 1987 & 1988: $4500.
SS
9:51 a.m.
And my best find of all: a virtually mint, seemingly
unused HP9000/300
computer with 7958B hard drive (150 Mb IIRC) and 9144A 16-track tape drive.
A label on the 98574 CPU module indicated it's been upgraded to a 375 which
is just about the ultimate of the 300-series. A 68030 processor running at
50MHz and 16 Mb of RAM. Nice!
My new 9000/375 system was built into a 19" rack enclosure which was in
turn bolted into a fiberglas transit case about 3' tall, 2' wide by about
2.5' deep. It was part of a military surplus system. I did not get a chance
to find the AN system designation on the rack or case, just that it weighed
97 pounds and required two persons to carry.
US Army Maneuver Control System, Version 10. The box you have was box #2
of what would have bene configured as a 3-box or 6-box set.
Other boxes included one which held the monitor (and doubled as a desk),
the communications processor, and the powersupply. If you look, you should
find a tag from either Loral or Ford Aerospace, as they were the MCS version
10 contractor.
4:20 p.m.
Upon the date 02:51 PM 5/18/99 -0400, John Ruschmeyer said something like:
Wow John! You startled me with knowing what the military system was which
used my HP 9000/375! Apparently you've seen/worked on the MCS before.
This is what is so doggone great about the bunch of folks on this list!
Such a variety of knowledge about many things and willing to share it. I
only hope that I've been of help myself to some of the folks here.
That's interesting.
With the gear being so virgin looking, this set was probably indeed just
stored away unused since it may have been procured close to when ver 11 was
put into the field.
If it's stripped then I can simply load the 7.0 that I have on hand. No
problem it seems :)
Seems I read somewhere (on a ng or somebody's website) that 7.0 was the
last officially supported HP-UX for the 300 series but whether a specific
group of the 300's (320/330/340/etc.) was the subject of that statement I
can't recall now.
Yes, the bulkhead panel which was part of the 19" rack the owner wanted to
keep had all the cables which connected to the system box (k'bd, video
coax's, remote speaker, HPIB and High Speed HPIB (for the disk), parallel
printer (I think), etc. They were soldered to the several AN/MS connectors
mounted on the bulkhead panel which were cabled to the other boxes you
spoke of above.
Now I think for sure I did see those other MCS boxes for sale at another
vendors' space a row or two over, probably where the fellow I bought the
9000 boxes from had gotten it. They didn't look cheap enough for me to buy
as they were big and relatively modern and I figured the dealer would want
a big buck for them. Apparently not as the MCS box with the computer cost
only $50. Oh well.
Besides, if I could buy them I did not have a truck out in the Salem Mall
parking lot and they'd not fit onto the shuttle bus very well :(
Anyway, I was very focused on looking for BC-191/BC-375 parts, DEC items,
early radio parts, early TV items, tech manuals for a variety of things,
Ethernet patch cables, AUI translators, and several other things so I
didn't let my focus wander into those big MCS cases. So dang much to see,
so little time to study :(
And my best
find of all: a virtually mint, seemingly unused HP9000/300
computer with 7958B hard drive (150 Mb IIRC) and 9144A 16-track tape drive.
A label on the 98574 CPU module indicated it's been upgraded to a 375 which
is just about the ultimate of the 300-series. A 68030 processor running at
50MHz and 16 Mb of RAM. Nice!
My new 9000/375 system was built into a 19" rack enclosure which was in
turn bolted into a fiberglas transit case about 3' tall, 2' wide by about
2.5' deep. It was part of a military surplus system. I did not get a chance
to find the AN system designation on the rack or case, just that it weighed
97 pounds and required two persons to carry.
US Army Maneuver Control System, Version 10. The box you have was box #2
of what would have bene configured as a 3-box or 6-box set.
Other boxes included one which held the monitor (and doubled as a desk),
the communications processor, and the powersupply. If you look, you should
find a tag from either Loral or Ford Aerospace, as they were the MCS version
10 contractor.
Didn't study the transit case too much. No obvious ID tag seen or else I'd
study it closely as I collect older military electronic gear. Nothing at
all on the HP gear except for the rubber stamped numbers on the starboard
side of the main system unit.
From the sounds of it, you have one a field
upgraded processor, but not
the later disk drive. (Later revisions of MCS 10 outgrew
the 150mb drive.)
AFAIR, it's actually still in use in some units. Apparently it had been built and not used *ever*.
Just stuck in a military
warehouse probably as a result of a military contract which didn't go
anywhere or as a result of the Cold War ceasing or something. I absolutely
cannot see *any* dust on the leading edges of the fan blades so this system
has maybe only an hour or two at most of operation :) SNs are from mid-89.
There's a Federal Stock Number or system part number rubber stamped onto
the right side of the computer box. A probably earlier FSN or contractor's
PN has been blacked out with paint (about 3/8" x 1.5" strip) and the
present number rubber stamped onto the case after the upgrade to the 375
model was done. A little ugly, but what the hey! It shows a bit about the
original purpose of the machine. That's the only indication of any special
use of it. The update was done in December '91 according to a date
handwritten on the CPU board tag inside.
Makes sense... MCS 10.3 was the fielded version at the time. (Version 11
was well on its way to failure, but would suffer for another year or so
before being killed.) [...] Only thing I had to
promise him was to email him with what I found on the disk. He's a UNI*
system admin and had enough UNI* machines of his own. I'm surprised he
hadn't seen an HP 9000 machine before but these 300's were obsolete some
time ago and he indicated he was always an Intel-based UNI* user.
Probably nothing on the HD as standard govt. policy is to wipe before
excessing. If it was a contractor system, then that might be different.
AFAIR, MCS 10 ran on a stripped configuration of HP-UX 7.03 I've got a copy of HP-UX 7.0 on tape with the
license, both still
shrinkwrapped, and manual set that I've had for some time. Now I've got a
machine to hang it upon! :) BTW, ver. 7.0 is near or at the end of HP-UX
support for the 300's. Have BASIC-UX ver. 5.0 w/license and docs too!
Good combo... 8.0 should also run fine, though you'd want more memory. The keyboard and monitor were some sort of
rugged, militarized things built
into an operator's station. The fellow who had it never got from the
surplus dealer as it obviously didn't quite interest him and maybe he
didn't realize what it was. If it's what I *think* I saw an hour or so
earlier at a surplus dealer's space not far away it definitelly wasn't the
normal HP keyboard as it was part of some other section of the system used
as the operations console and was connected via AN/MS connectors and
cables. Have absolutely no idea as to the function of the whole system. If
there's something on the hard disk when it comes up it may give me a good
clue. But I gotta get it lit up first.
The normal connectors were brought out to the bulkheads where they were
converted to AN/MS connectors. The keyboard would have been a stock
HP/IL keboard, but might have had a hacked cable..
<<<john>>>
P.S. the 3-box and 6-box configs were jokingly referred to as the
"refrigerator" and the "double-wide refridgerator".
Thanks profusely for the input John! Very much appreciated.
Regards, Chris
-- --
Christian Fandt, Electronic/Electrical Historian
Jamestown, NY USA cfandt(a)netsync.net
Member of Antique Wireless Association
URL: http://www.ggw.org/awa
1:38 p.m.
At 12:34 PM 5/18/99 -0400, Chris wrote all about his neat hauls!:
And my best find of all: a virtually mint, seemingly
unused HP9000/300
computer with 7958B hard drive (150 Mb IIRC) and 9144A 16-track tape drive.
Ohhh! I'm envious as hell!!!
So, does anybody have a very decent looking keyboard and HP-HIL k'bd cable
they're willing to sell to me? Keyboard model *I think* should be a 46020
or 46021 or a 98203C.
Those are all HP-HIL keyboards. They should all be interchangeable but
may have some different keys. The 98203C is the same style and layout as
the famous Nimetz Keyboard. It's mounted in a LARGE flat metal case. It's
called Nimetz because it's so big that many people associated it with the
aircraft carrier! The other two are MOL standard layouts with plastic cases.
I have extra keyboards, mice, cables etc. Contact me off-line and tell me
what you need.
Joe
3:27 p.m.
On 18 May 99 at 12:34, Christian Fandt wrote:
Here's a bit of a report of what I found at the
Hamvention. I was there on
Friday from about 09:15 to 17:30 except lunch for which we went off the
grounds and on Saturday from about 08:00 to 13:30. Therefore with my method
of checking every promising box and poking around under tables I saw about
3/4 of the whole fleamarket. I was looking for quite a variety of things
-not just old computers.
Stuff I dragged home were two DG Ones (model 2208A), two DG printers which
go with them (model 2230), one AC power supply and one printer cable all
for $15; VMEbus boards including one unopened Force Computers SYS68Y DRAM-2
memory board ($5) and four Motorola CODEX boards, $15; an IOMEGA Ditto Easy
3200 external tape drive (Travan 3) with cable and power supply, $25.
And my best find of all: a virtually mint, seemingly unused HP9000/300
computer with 7958B hard drive (150 Mb IIRC) and 9144A 16-track tape drive.
A label on the 98574 CPU module indicated it's been upgraded to a 375 which
is just about the ultimate of the 300-series. A 68030 processor running at
50MHz and 16 Mb of RAM. Nice!
I've been casually looking for one of the 300's for a couple of years. My
ex-colleague who's an engineering manager from my ex-company's German
parent company told me last week when he visited the house that an HP
9000/332 system was promised to me and will be shipped to me from their
Chicago facility late this year.
My new 9000/375 system was built into a 19" rack enclosure which was in
turn bolted into a fiberglas transit case about 3' tall, 2' wide by about
2.5' deep. It was part of a military surplus system. I did not get a chance
to find the AN system designation on the rack or case, just that it weighed
97 pounds and required two persons to carry.
Apparently it had been built and not used *ever*. Just stuck in a military
warehouse probably as a result of a military contract which didn't go
anywhere or as a result of the Cold War ceasing or something. I absolutely
cannot see *any* dust on the leading edges of the fan blades so this system
has maybe only an hour or two at most of operation :) SNs are from mid-89.
There's a Federal Stock Number or system part number rubber stamped onto
the right side of the computer box. A probably earlier FSN or contractor's
PN has been blacked out with paint (about 3/8" x 1.5" strip) and the
present number rubber stamped onto the case after the upgrade to the 375
model was done. A little ugly, but what the hey! It shows a bit about the
original purpose of the machine. That's the only indication of any special
use of it. The update was done in December '91 according to a date
handwritten on the CPU board tag inside.
I was passing by the previous owner's space when I overheard one of the
guys asking "What is it?" as they were taking the cover off the 7958B box
to try and figure out just what *it* was. I looked and saw the main box was
a 300 system (Whoa!! Let's stop and look!), became interested and checked
it out. I offered an explanation as to what it was, what it was usually
used for, typical processors used in the 300's, etc. Apparently the
then-new owner who'd just dragged it to his space from a nearby surplus
dealer didn't see a use for it for himself and offered the HP 9000 items to
me and I paid him nearly all the remaining money I had to spend: $40 for
all three boxes. He kept the transit case and 19" rack which bolted inside
as he had a use for it back at home in Houston. He didn't recognize at
first when he bought the whole transit case (for $50) that those 3 HP boxes
which were clamped onto rack slide plates were actually a computer. He was
happy somebody got it who knew what it was and could use it and he was
happy to have the transit case. I love happiness :-) Only thing I had to
promise him was to email him with what I found on the disk. He's a UNI*
system admin and had enough UNI* machines of his own. I'm surprised he
hadn't seen an HP 9000 machine before but these 300's were obsolete some
time ago and he indicated he was always an Intel-based UNI* user.
I've got a copy of HP-UX 7.0 on tape with the license, both still
shrinkwrapped, and manual set that I've had for some time. Now I've got a
machine to hang it upon! :) BTW, ver. 7.0 is near or at the end of HP-UX
support for the 300's. Have BASIC-UX ver. 5.0 w/license and docs too!
The keyboard and monitor were some sort of rugged, militarized things built
into an operator's station. The fellow who had it never got from the
surplus dealer as it obviously didn't quite interest him and maybe he
didn't realize what it was. If it's what I *think* I saw an hour or so
earlier at a surplus dealer's space not far away it definitelly wasn't the
normal HP keyboard as it was part of some other section of the system used
as the operations console and was connected via AN/MS connectors and
cables. Have absolutely no idea as to the function of the whole system. If
there's something on the hard disk when it comes up it may give me a good
clue. But I gotta get it lit up first.
So, does anybody have a very decent looking keyboard and HP-HIL k'bd cable
they're willing to sell to me? Keyboard model *I think* should be a 46020
or 46021 or a 98203C. I don't know the exact differences as I have no
pictures or specs. but they are mentioned in the "Peripheral Installation
Guide for the HP 9000 Series 200/300", which I have had for some time, as
being used with the 300-series. I'll post a separate request for a k'brd
and other info in a separate msg. later today or tomorrow. Need feet for
bottom of the boxes too but probably large stick-on rubber feet should be okay.
I've got two old non-HP fixed frequency monitors I'll drag out of the
garage and try after I get a k'bd. The video interface card is a 98547A
which is not mentioned in the Periph. Inst. Guide.
I saw a few DEC items: A rather lonely RL02 standing amongst a bunch of
fairly new amateur gear; a VT320 and VT 420 with a few of DEC's serial
cables; a couple of AUI-to-BNC translator modules for $10 each (Too much?
Just right?) and little else that I could see.
Bought a couple more Ethernet NICs for $10 new (Intel 8/16); 3.5-to-5.25"
floppy adaptors for $1 each; 25' CAT5 cables for $3 each; "The Hard Disk
Technical Guide", "The Modem Tech. Guide", and "The Network Tech.
Guide"
all w/CDROMs, published by Micro House, for $5 each; misc. cables and bits.
Hard disks were even cheaper than I'd ever seen but had no extra bucks to
spend, dang it.
Also saw a pallet full (4' x 4' x 5' high) of Sun SPARC LX boxen; a Grid
computer, don't know exact model as I don't know Grids, but I'd wager it
was early. No model # on bottom or back. It weighed a ton it seemed,
painted black. Guy wanted $30 but by then I was flat broke by then :( ;
lots of C64 and C128 machines and accessories; tons of PeeCee stuff of all
ages and condx; pallets full of printers and monitors; lots of IBM
MicroChannel machines and boards; several HP Vectras; boxes of network
stuff of varying conditions and types; boxes of shrinkwrapped software;
bunches of other stuff I can't recall at the moment. Lots and lots of
amateur radio gear of course.
I wish I had more money to spend there dang it!
Importantly, I did score a few really hard to find parts for the WWII
BC-191F transmitter I'm trying to restore plus a few military connectors
for some gear in the collection; also got a couple of test equipment
manuals for units I have in the collection. Still wish I had more $$$ so I
could get more old gear and parts! Dang.
Saw a couple of antique radio collector friends from other distant parts of
the country; made contacts with a couple of folks who may have parts for
the BC-191 and the virtually identical BC-375 transmitters. Understand from
another email list (Greenkeys) that a couple of fellow teletype collectors
were there too. Not much TTY gear to be found though :( May have bumped
into one of you ClassicCmp folks but we wouldn't have known each other
visually.
All-in-all a very good time. Free shuttle buses running frequently all day
every day between the several distant parking areas (we parked free at the
Salem Mall) and that made it very convenient to haul a heavy object or
several bag loads back to the car :)
Something for everybody there. Rain held off on Fri and Sat was really
beautiful. I may go again someday as my uncle lives in nearby Xenia, OH and
I have basically free room and board :) Only 360 miles from home so I don't
have too much of an excuse not to go especially if after I find a decent
paying job and could have extra $$ to spend.
Wonder what the attendance was this year? No motel rooms available within a
75 mile or more radius. Columbus area was reported to be closest rooms.
Incidentally, you locals may have noticed there's quite a different scene
at Mendelson's Surplus in the past year or so. We went there to pickup a
Hamvention ticket for myself and I was pleasantly surprised. New minor
league baseball stadium being built across the street, an audio store just
opened inside the main building, new parking lot in back of the church, a
new Mendelson's outlet store next door across the new parking lot. But it
apparently still has the good ol' 3rd floor full of all kinds of parts,
equipment and untold amounts of obscure goodies! :-)
Yes indeed, next year :)
Regards, Chris
-- --
Christian Fandt, Electronic/Electrical Historian
Jamestown, NY USA cfandt(a)netsync.net
Member of Antique Wireless Association
URL: http://www.ggw.org/awa
Ahh Christian, you restore my enthusiasm for collecting. The reports till now
were filled with no Decs nothing of interest except some tired 486s. And if
the Daytona had nothing of interest for computer collectors why bother to go to
Hamfests at all ? I'm delighted you found so many things available for those
not looking for Altairs or Imsais or rare cores. I believe your primary
interest has been radio but your scholastic and devoted approach to computers
is a joy. Not to mention your approach to early mfg in your region. You are an
inspiration. Keep on keeping on.
Thank you larry
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