Response to Re: List Management - RESPONSE - test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org

15 Mar 2002

I Second that!
Firstly, regardless of your position on this matter, we must
all realize that we are enjoying the *privledge* of using this
*public* forum for discourse.

This privledge is granted purely by Jay's unselfish contribution
of time, effort, and bandwith.  We owe Jay alot-- hassling him
for something that is part and parcel with a public forum such 
as ours is unjustified and unfair.

The burden of keeping our forum relevent does not lie with one
person-- it lies with us all.  Help preserve our relevence by
keeping your posts on-topic (yeah I know, I'm a guilty party too).

Yes, a few bums use our forum as a sleeping place, stinking it 
up as they tend to do.  But we have the power to evict them with 
the <DEL> key.  A small effort by many, is more powerful than 
a great effort by a few (or the one).

It's cold, here in Kansas.  I think I'll break up this soapbox,
and make a nice warm fire.  Maybe I'll even roast a few hotdogs.

Jeff

On Fri, 15 Mar 2002 23:53:00 -0800 "William R. Buckley" &lt;hhacker(a)ev1.net&gt;
writes:
...
  Moral: Jay, given that you were granted control, and
given that 
 others were fully satisfied with your having such control (and the 
 attendent responsibilities), it is clear that you should not give up such 
...
  control (lest the list go the way of the ICWS) and you
should stick to your
...
  guns.

 My vote is for Jay!

 William R. Buckley

 Sellam Wrote....
  Ok, this is where I object.  It is NOT your list.
 This list  
 That's funny you should say that now Sellam, because you were the 
 first one
 to post to me privately during the great "reply-to" debate that "it 
 is your
 list, take care of it well....", and "you make the rules... do what 
 you
 wish". I will go dig up your past private email to me that said just 
 that if
 you would like. You have also posted words similar to that on the 
 list in
 the past, I noted them well. I find it interesting that you are 
 suddenly
 changing your tune. Does your past stance on this issue no longer 
 mesh with
 your adgenda perhaps?

  I don't want you to be the one to decide
solely
 how it is run.  I, for one, would like some input on issues.  
 You do get some input. I listen. However I also make the final
 determination. If you don't like it, or feel that I don't get 
 reasonable
 input from the list members, please feel free to start an alternate 
 list -
 that appears to be your motivation in any case.

  That was true before.  Unfortunately, the list
has now been   infiltrated
  with spammers, which is quite unfortunate. 

 Infiltrated with Spammers? See Jerome's recent post on this topic 
 for a
 reality check Sellam.

  Kill all off-topic messages (start with this one)
as well as
 spam.  
 That statement is what a flamer would call a "target rich 
 environment". I
 think I'll leave the gauntlet on the ground.

  Jay, don't take this too personally, but that
answer SUCKS!  When   will you
  be "damn well ready"?  The list asked
for a solution several weeks   ago.  I
  think it's time to finally do something.

 Sellam, you're trying to bait me. I'm not falling for it. Live with 
 it.

 Jay West

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