----- Original Message ----- From: <healyzh(a)aracnet.com> To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 10:53 AM Subject: Re: ID'ing VAX Boards the As soon as I find it, I will do that. It's on the server somewhere..:^) Cheers Geoff

The pre-adb keyboarded Macs did not include cursor keys (128 -> Plus).

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On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, John Foust wrote: Just ask them qustions about real comptuers, like, tell them that you just got a PDP-11/44 that's not working, that you've tested the PSU, describe the switch settings on the boards and what lights are lit and what the console displays and what you've discovered using a logic probe, oscilloscope and VOM and then proceed to ask questions about using your logic analyzer to debug the problem further. You know what would really be fun? If a dozen or so of us all kept calling one of those PeeCeeLuzeDoze shows and kept asking them questions like this. Ok, first, we'd have to get past the call screening, but, we could tell the call screener that it's about some LuzeDoze system related problem, then get on the air and ask a question about a real computer system. That's it, we should launch a Usenet campaign to swamp the radio PeeCee shows with questions about VAXen, IBM mainframes, Tandems running Guardian and also ask about UNIX - stay away from asking Linux questions as that's becomming common and they may know about that - hit 'em with Version 7 related questions, along with AIX, System III, PNX, DGUX, etc. questions. Just think, calls from all over the world flooding one of these radio shows with interesting questions. A few more ideas: Call in a question about a hard disk problem, then hit 'em with a question about your RK05 or Funitsu Eagle while you've got the schematics in front of you. Let's not forget the simple questions too, like telling them there's a problem with the fan in your PeeCee, and then ask their opinion on a proper repair; I'm sure they'll tell you to replace the power supply. At that point, tell them that you don't want to replace the entire PSU and that you've removed the fan, and what you really want to know is what type of lubricant they recommend for it after you give them the model number. A few years ago, I had a telephone call from someone one up in Delaware (or was it Rhode Island? - it was one of those place up north) who wanted me to host a radio talk show about computers. The catch was that I'd have to put some money up front for this until sponsors began picking up the tab, and I wasn't sure how legitimate this was. Is that how it usually works? Or, drive up the prices for our toys. :-( -- R. D. Davis rdd(a)perqlogic.com http://www.perqlogic.com/rdd 410-744-4900

On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, Jason McBrien wrote: I've got the answer! :-) Here's what you're doing wrong: You're using MS-Windows. :-) :-) :-) Seriously, good example! Expect answers like: "Firstly, I think you meant to say VMS - that stood for very much storage, heheh, although it's not much storage these days (snort), not MVS, and no one uses VMS any more, so upgade to NT on a newer maching your problem should go away," "I used to have one of those 9-track players in my car - never heard of anyone using one with a computer; you need to upgrade it." [yes, I know the difference between an 8 track audio player and a 9-track magtape drive, but I'll bet they won't]. Also, expect to be asked if you've configured Luzedoze correctly on your 370. -- R. D. Davis rdd(a)perqlogic.com http://www.perqlogic.com/rdd 410-744-4900

Yeah, the guy who wrote OpenVMS also wrote Windows 2000, so they're the same thing so use Windows 2000 on your VAX 9000, hehehe. Actually you could ask questions on DECWindows, insist it's "Just like Windows 98 but it doesn't crash as much" Possible "Windows" substitutes: -DECWindows -Macintosh System X (Pick an old one, like version 4) -GEM (Atari Power!) -Amiga Workbench (Tell them you've got it on your G3) -GEOS (On your Commodore 64 with a CMD hard drive) -IRIX -SunOS (NOT Solaris, SunOS, preferably on a Sun 3, with X11R4) -OpenLook -The best: Linux or *bsd with fvwm95 (My friend says it looks just like Windows!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "R. D. Davis" <rdd(a)smart.net> To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 3:35 PM Subject: Re: Radio shows? card. am I

On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, R. D. Davis wrote: <...> No thanks, I'll pass. Some of us actually have better things to do with our time. Hey, a phone number! Maybe we should call that and ask whoever answers a bunch of PC questions. Sellam International Man of Intrigue and Danger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Looking for a six in a pile of nines... Coming soon: VCF 4.0! VCF East: Planning in Progress See http://www.vintage.org for details!

Yep, the Mac classic I have doesn't have any cursor keys or arrow keys or anything of the sort. The Apple ][+ has left/right arrow keys, but no up/down arrows. I can send a scan of my keyboard iffen you like... clint On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, Roger Merchberger wrote: