Haha - well I felt a bit bad about swearing on teh list anyway so sorry to all! :-) No more mention of "modern junk" I promise! Master of all that Sucks wrote:

Well it wasnt personal or anything but as one of the poor sods who has to develop for that machine... sorry mate, but its a bloody nightmare! Like I said nothoing personal but as an artist the machine really hampers us, or at least compared to what we were LED to believe was capable of the beast from all the pre-launch hype. Sure theres always gonna be hype, but that and the marketing f*** ups, high price tag etc etc... not been to pleasant a transition period for the developer :( Its not a BAD machine, just not what we expected and (so I'm told) its really tricky to get your head round code-wise (yes, the problems you described plus severely undocumented "features"). I guess its a learning experience. Still, bring on Game Cube! HeHe!!! Anyway to keep on subject - I'm STILL looking for that CBM Pet and Apple II if anyone has one in the UK?!!! Also, slightly off topic I guess... does anyone have or can anyone get me a Atari 5200 in the States who is willing to ship to the UK? Thanks! Shaun Chris Kennedy wrote:

I appreciate that but I think its fair to say that probably the majority of UK collectors are micro-based! Bloody great machine and in good nick the screen is incredible. Wish I had one boxed :( Well you're probably in a moniroty but, as for arcade collecting (yes, I dabble in this too!), the US guys get a better share of the goodies, and generally get the really juicy goodies too. Still... looks like a nice collection mate, I'm jealous! Shaun

Rumor has it that Tony Duell may have mentioned these words: Hmmm... The Hitachi 6309 is a pretty interesting CPU, too... ;-) (OT) I just picked up a Gottlieb 1974-vintage pinball machine, in (mostly) working order - it's got no computers, however... And, I'd *love* to have a PERQ -- they sould like a *very* fun machine. Oh, well... mebbe someday I'll get a chance to visit Jolly Ol' England... Laterz, "Merch" -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger --- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an old .sig. If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.

On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Roger Merchberger wrote: Some PERQs have been rumored to have been PERQing here on this side of the pond, and are rumored to have been created as well over here. :-) Heh... try convincing the average personnel 'droidocrat in some large corporation stuffed with other 'droidocrats of that... strange things happen in those Dilbert zones [an extremely bizarre rendition of the "Twighlight Zone" theme song is heard playing off in the distance]. Funny thing, I think I may have just greatly offended a few of them when I sent them a bill for the time it took to complete a very long and annoying pre-interview technical questionnaire; apparently not a good company to work for if they got that annoyed. My suggestion is that we all start charging for our time during the interview process; if we all did it, the'd have no choice but to pay us. :-) Please pass the word, demand an independent consulting type of rate (e.g., between US$120 and US$200 per hour) for the interview time! Perhaps if all employees demanded to be independent contractors, we'd see lots of changes in Dilbertville. -- Copyright (C) 2001 R. D. Davis The difference between humans & other animals: All Rights Reserved an unnatural belief that we're above Nature & rdd(a)rddavis.net 410-744-4900 her other creatures, using dogma to justify such http://www.rddavis.net beliefs and to justify much human cruelty.

I would even doubt that a remarkable number ever left the Brit island (Eire except) ... At least I never saw one over here. Gruss H. -- VCF Europa 3.0 am 27./28. April 2002 in Muenchen http://www.vcfe.org/

On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 19:38:34 +0100 Shaun Stephenson <marino13(a)btinternet.com> wrote: I have a boxed Vectrex that I bought from Hamleys (big London toy-shop, in Regents Street) in 1984 for 50 quid. I went down there on the back of a friend's motorbike, and carried the Vectrex home the same way. Still works, and I have the light pen and most of the games and overlays. I know someone who has the 3D Imager, too! -- John Honniball Email: John.Honniball(a)uwe.ac.uk University of the West of England