9 Oct
2000
9 Oct
'00
6:24 p.m.
RE: http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,39198,00.html
Michelle,
The silly thing about the Colossus II vs. ENIAC debate on which one was
first is that they were both beat a few years earlier by Konrad Zuse, a
German inventor working alone during WWII.
Please check here for references:
http://irb.cs.tu-berlin.de/~zuse/Konrad_Zuse/
http://hjs.geol.uib.no/zuse/zusez1z3.htm
http://www.epemag.com/zuse/
All three are excellent resources on Zuse's amazing work.
I hope you will print a follow-up to your October 3rd article that truly
sets the records straight, because this is something that needs to be
known for such an important topic.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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10 Oct
10 Oct
4:32 a.m.
New subject: 4004?
In case your local news services are too dumbed
down to give you the news accurately (I had to
switch from NewsRadio88 to NPR)...
Jack St. Clair Kilby got the Nobel Prize for
Physics! Shared it with two others Solid state
CPU for him and Solid state lasers for the other
two.
John A.
8:32 a.m.
New subject: 4004?
"John Allain" <John.Allain(a)donnelley.infousa.com> wrote:
In case your local news services are too dumbed
down to give you the news accurately (I had to
switch from NewsRadio88 to NPR)...
Jack St. Clair Kilby got the Nobel Prize for
Physics! Shared it with two others Solid state
CPU for him and Solid state lasers for the other
two.
Hi
I think Kilby's was for the IC, not CPU.
Dwight
9:27 a.m.
New subject: 4004?
Dwight> I think Kilby's was for the IC, not CPU.
Right. Thanks for responding. The dates of
course told the story. JK's invention was
supposedly in 1958 or so. The CPU, wasn't
That the i4004 over near 1970+?
Anybody know the line of products from TI, the ID's,
of the stuff coming from JK's first chip?
John A.
10:41 a.m.
New subject: 4004?
On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, John Allain wrote:
Right. Thanks for responding. The dates of
course told the story. JK's invention was
supposedly in 1958 or so. The CPU, wasn't
That the i4004 over near 1970+?
Some would argue that it was the F14 CADC designed by Ray Holt:
http://www.microcomputerhistory.com
Sellam International Man of Intrigue and Danger
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11:57 p.m.
New subject: 4004?
Anybody know the line of products from TI, the
ID's,
of the stuff coming from JK's first chip?
Have a look at _State of the Art_ by Stan Augarten
(foreword by Ray Bradbury!). It's not meant to be
authoritiative, but It has a surprisingly interesting
selection of information, as well as lots of neat full-
page pictures.
I suspect it's out of print.
-- Derek
23 Oct
23 Oct
2:56 a.m.
New subject: Nobel Price (WAS: 4004?)
[...1/2 Nobel price for Jack S. Kilby for
his part in developing the IC...]
Anybody know the line of products from TI, the
ID's,
of the stuff coming from JK's first chip?
Not a lot, if it has been for Jack K. we would still
wire single transistors on a common carrier, and instead
of a Silicon Valley there would be a 'Germanium Park'
somewhere in Texas. Thanks to Robert Noyce of Fairchild,
who happened to invent the planar Si based IC short
before in a tiny outback county near SF, it didn't come
thru :))
Why hasn't Robert Noyce been awarded ? Simply
because the Nobel price is only to be given to
living persons - and Jack simply outlived his
rival - also the reason why the award is given
becaus of his 'paticipation' and not 'invention'
of the IC, and why there are others (for different
areas of electronics) included. the comitee felt
that it's completly wrong to give the full award
to the second in line.
Gruss
H.
(Still catching up old posts)
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