Considering the amount of bandwidth wasted here on other OT topics (and often also on On-topic issues), it seems pretty picayune to waste even more on whether a P70 is OT or not. Much better to just let it go by than to add more dross to the pile, in my opinion. Interesting that discussions about (e.g.) whether hydrochloric acid is toxic don't trigger the same kind of response... Besides, if everyone felt that it was OT, they wouldn't reply; apparently many people thought it wasn't. However, it would be nice if words like f***ing were avoided. Just my contribution to the pile... mike