12 Feb
2003
12 Feb
'03
10:21 a.m.
On Feb 12, 15:05, <lemay(a)cs.umn.edu> wrote:
I bought a xx2247 key from ebay. Just in case others
are planning to
do the
same, the key appears to be an almost brand new copy.
There is a
*slight*
amount of rust in the areas that were cut away, but
other than that
it is
nice shiny new chrome.
I purchased mine for the starting bid of $10, but they then charged
me $10
more for shipping (actual shipping was $4.30), making
for an
expensive key.
I called the local locksmith and they will duplicate
this type of key
for
$6 each.
My local keycutting shop cut a copy for just a little less than that.
The key style is quite standard. The trick, of course, is getting the
first one :-) If anyone in the UK needs one, I can get them cut.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
12 Feb
12 Feb
1:17 p.m.
--- Peter Turnbull <pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com> wrote:
On Feb 12, 15:05, <lemay(a)cs.umn.edu> wrote:
> I bought a xx2247 key from ebay...
>
> I purchased mine for the starting bid of $10, but they then charged
> me $10 more for shipping...
Ow!
> I called the local locksmith and they will
duplicate this type of key
> for $6 each.
That sounds about right.
My local keycutting shop cut a copy for just a little
less than that.
The key style is quite standard. The trick, of course, is getting the
first one :-)
Not really... the point of the XX2247 is that a full-service locksmith
should be able to cross-reference that to a set of key depths,
_presuming_ they can code-cut a 7-pin round key (not a universal
expectation). My experience with code-cut keys is that a) they cut
it, you pay, fit or no fit, and b) it's a few $$$ more than a copy.
IIRC, it's about $15 around here to code-cut a key at places that can
do so (takes more skill than operating a duplicating machine, so
they charge more for the skilled labor). By comparison, WalMart
charges around $2.50 for copying an automobile key (but don't lose
your original if you have an anti-theft key with an embedded resistor;
that's well over $50 to replace! - they have to try 16 resistor
possibilities and wait in between each one for the car to reset).
Another word to the wise on DEC keys - if you have a newer PDP-11
(11/24, for example) or a newer keyed VAX (like my 8200) with the
*plastic* lock body - there are no tumblers. A key blank will
operate your machine - DEC shipped an orangish-red plastic key
with those systems, but the older keys (or a blank) will turn the
lock.
Metal lock bodies on older machines (PDP-8/L, PDP-8/e, VAX-11/780,
VAX-11/750...) do require a key, 99% of the time it's the XX2247 (but
I have *one* PSU with a different one - it was a customer option).
-ethan
13 Feb
13 Feb
4:44 a.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ethan Dicks" <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: DEC xx2247 keys
Another word to the wise on DEC keys - if you have a
newer PDP-11
(11/24, for example) or a newer keyed VAX (like my 8200) with the
*plastic* lock body - there are no tumblers. A key blank will
operate your machine - DEC shipped an orangish-red plastic key
with those systems, but the older keys (or a blank) will turn the
lock.
Watch out with this one though. While any key that fits in the lock will
turn it, when I used a metal one from an old security system to turn my VAX
6320 on, the outside part of the index keyway scraped away some plastic on
the lock. It would have been fine if I hadn't inserted the key all the way
in, but I didn't know any better at the time and I was in a hurry to show it
off to a buddy.
-ethan
Bob
11:21 a.m.
I have both an XX2247 and an XX3651 key.. I can't remember what the
XX3651 is for.
If anyone in the Washington DC metro area needs to borrow a 2247 for
copying purposes, let me know.
-Rick
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