On Sun, 15 Oct 2000, Lawrence Walker wrote: What we are planning on is that it will just slide further west and then be beachfront on both sides :) - don

At 03:41 PM 10/15/00 +0000, you wrote: Hi Bob, Do you still have any docs or software for the Digital Group computer? I'm working on picking one up. Relocated Newfy now in Florida. I used to think this place had poor pickings as far as old computers go but lately I've been turning up all kinds of stuff. Joe

Though I never got "into" the Digital Group hardware to any extent, it was made here, in the Denver area, and since I once worked for one Robert Suding, who was one of the DB principals and the mind behind many of the decisions (except the ones made by Dick Bemis, the "business-head") and who still lives in this area, albeit in retirement, I do have a couple of DG boards, and have had a small exposure to the stuff. They made several CPU boards to go with their various CPU's and, depending on which CPU you have, I may be able to help you with some software. My interest, however, was in the 6502 CPU, which means I will be of little help if you have the 6800 or Z80. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net> To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2000 3:20 PM Subject: Re: Who collects (reads the mailing list...?) vintage computers managed

Robert Suding's favorite of the processors they supported was certainly the Z80, but since they only had an 8K memory board up into '79, at which time they finally got their long-overdue 32K memory cards out, and since I don't think they ever came out with a current (for the time) FDC, I don't think they ever got an OS running on it. Of those of us who used it, the DG model was adequate, and, even comparatively clean. The 6502 CPU board had 2K of RAM on board and a 1702, providing 256 bytes of Original Robert Suding monitor code. It talked to the audio cassette interface located on the same board with the video interface. Many of us, including myself, limited the amount of DG hardware we used by running homebrew hardware, which is what I did, but I followed a model designed by Tommy Billings, on a 44-pin bus. That has outlasted the DG stuff. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: The Forslunds <forslund(a)tbaytel3.tbaytel.net> To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2000 1:44 PM Subject: Re: Who collects (reads the mailing list...?) vintage computers was who CPU have, in or

In &lt;200010151942.PAA24042(a)tbaytel.net&gt;et>, on 10/15/00 at 08:50 PM, "The Forslunds" &lt;forslund(a)tbaytel3.tbaytel.net&gt; said: Don't be. Most people around here are kind except for your's truely when he has been drinking........ Welcome. Too bad you have more offers than you can deal with <grin>. I only wish I were in the same boat.... I enjoy early micros as well and am looking for a full-blown coco system at the moment. Sometimes I feel I'm the only one in North Carolina. Not the same, but still frustrating. I get a similar response from my wife at times.... Really though, she is very understanding and generally supportive. No kidding. I'd live in France before California, but the lure of the machine makes Cali look tempting nonetheless. My freedom is more important than my habit. I may occasionaly visit California, but I would never live there. Bread for freedom. Don't bother, Cali is a facist deathtrap. Sounds like you aren't hurting too badly for new gear but I'll keep it in mind. That is an interesting issue I see come up often. Even though I don't spend GOBS of money on my hobby I realize that sellers expect a profit. How do we reconcile our habit of aquiring machines for nothing with sometimes having to pay? Even suppliers of religious materials such as chalices and platters of gold for ceremonies make money on thier products. Sometimes I get the impression that folks hate someone for making a buck on a sale of a 'sacred' article of equipment. More often I hear the person complain that the seller is making unreasonable demands. Greed is a two-way street. The seller displays greed sometimes by inflating a price, and the buyer displays avarice and hate. Avarice by wanting the gear so badly and hate because the seller places the item out of his reach. This is called commerce. Ed Kirby of CPB for instance is sitting on 16 VaxStation 4000/60's because he thinks he can sell them as systems for $300.00 each. This, I have learned is unrealistic and that something like $120 to $150 each is more like it. For example, a DG MV9500 might be worth $900.00 (arbitrary figure) but the TAPES that make the machine operate are nearly priceless. What do you then do? Hate the fellow for failing to run a free copy, or pay him the couple of hundred dollars extra for the original tapes? DG wants $1300.00 for those same tapes. $300.00 for the scrapper's tapes is a bargain given that. Especially if he throws in the drive and controller as part of the bargain. There are ways and then there are ways. Thanks for writing. Hope to hear from you again soon. Regards, Jeff -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Jeffrey S. Worley President Complete Computer Services, Inc. 30 Greenwood Rd. Asheville, NC 28803 828-277-5959 THETechnoid(a)home.com -----------------------------------------------------------