I say retro/simple. I don't like new/fancy as such layouts tend to get in the way of usability. Having looked at all three, I rather like the current, but think it would look better without the busy graphic below the black CLASSICCMP line. Of the other two, I prefer the 'retro' one, but would recommend white instead of pale green. One thing I like is a page that simple and looks/works good under both Netscape/Mozilla/IE, and Lynx. For example my DEC Emulation site works just fine under Netscape/Mozilla/IE, and works pretty good under Lynx. http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/decemu.html It's also a very low bandwidth site in that it is pretty basic HTML, with almost no graphics. Zane