14 Jun
2019
14 Jun
'19
5:53 a.m.
From: Liam Proven
There was a certain simplicity and understandability
about Win9x,
yes, but NT was far more reliable, even back in the NT 3 era. ..
So I moved to NT as soon as my kit could run it, and never looked
back.
I was speaking from a user's perspective; I never did much coding under
Windows (well, a fair amount under Cygwin, using only the portable I/O
library, but that's not really _Windows_ programming).
From that perspective, 98SE was the sweet spot for me
(I don't have any
reliability issues, with the configs I run). I do have some XP
machines,
and the Windows 10 laptop, but most of mine run 98SE.
Noel
14 Jun
14 Jun
6:21 a.m.
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 14:53, Noel Chiappa via cctalk
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I was speaking from a user's perspective; I never did much coding under
Windows (well, a fair amount under Cygwin, using only the portable I/O
library, but that's not really _Windows_ programming).
Well, me too. I don't really program anything any more and haven't
since the end of the 1980s.
From that perspective, 98SE was the sweet spot for me
(I don't have any
reliability issues, with the configs I run). I do have some XP machines,
and the Windows 10 laptop, but most of mine run 98SE.
I am astonished. I never found 98SE a stable or reliable OS and was
glad to get rid of it.
I keep DOS boot partitions around on some of my machines. E.g. my
testbed Thinkpad X200 has a bootable primary IBM PC DOS 7.1 (not 7.01)
primary partition. (The others contain A2, Haiku and Devuan.)
But the recent kit mostly has Win10 around, just in case I need to
reflash a BIOS or root a phone or something. I never normally use it
-- they run Ubuntu normally -- but it's there if I need it. (After an
hour of installing updates, anyway.)
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3:36 p.m.
On 6/14/19 7:21 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
I am astonished. I never found 98SE a stable or
reliable OS and was glad
to get rid of it.
I too had a soft spot for Windows 98 Second Edition. I ran it for a
LONG time.
I found it quite stable and used it for a server for a school in '99-'00
before putting a Linux box in place the following year.
They had 98SE, it worked, and I was able to get it stable for a lab of
~20 other 98SE machines.
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16 Jun
16 Jun
3:26 a.m.
On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 at 00:36, Grant Taylor via cctalk
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I too had a soft spot for Windows 98 Second Edition. I ran it for a
LONG time.
I found it quite stable and used it for a server for a school in '99-'00
before putting a Linux box in place the following year.
They had 98SE, it worked, and I was able to get it stable for a lab of
~20 other 98SE machines.
:-o
*Wow.*
Did you at least compare it to NT? I had NT boxes with uptimes of
months with no special effort. 9x crashed if you gave it a stern
look. In the trade we called it GameOS at the time.
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9:49 a.m.
On 6/16/19 4:26 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
:-o
*Wow.*
Did you at least compare it to NT?
No.
The machines were donated, they had the '98 OEM sticker on them, it kept
everything legal. Seeing as how this was for a school, everything
worked, and was stable for months at a time, we had no reason to change it.
I had experience with NT 4.0 prior to that. But I / we felt no
compulsion to change.
I had NT boxes with uptimes of months with no special
effort. 9x
crashed if you gave it a stern look. In the trade we called it GameOS
at the time.
As a workstation, yes, '98 could be unstable. I have no idea how often
they would reboot the workstations. But the server stayed up for weeks
to months at a time.
There was also the advantage that the server was the same as the
workstations. Meaning that a teacher could do things on the server if
they needed to. (I lived about an hour away.)
Was it great or the best? Probably not. Did it work well enough? Yes.
Did it fulfill their needs? Yes.
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