15 Nov
2001
15 Nov
'01
8:22 a.m.
On Nov 15, 10:57, Ethan Dicks wrote:
Not a lot. And it's not corrosive. Don't use an apple :-)
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University of York
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> There's a trick to soldering them. Stick the plug in a socket (or,
btter
still, a
potato) to solder it. It stops things getting too hot and
melting.
I've done the socket thing, but I've never done a potato... wouldn't you
get lots of residual starch on the pins? 
15 Nov
15 Nov
1:23 p.m.
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3:30 p.m.
If you want to know why I did this, think about :
1) Who do you associate with apples (the fruit, not the computer)
Either the Beatles (Apple Records) or Rock Hudson (fruit). ;-)
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3:57 p.m.
If you want to know why I did this, think about :
1) Who do you associate with apples (the fruit, not the computer)
Johnny Appleseed???
2) When was he born
Why, on September 26, 1774.
3) Some of us celebrate his birthday rather than another event (possibly
birthday-related) on the same date :-).
-tony
4:28 p.m.
New subject: Apple ][-series sound board??
It seems that I've got a board with a couple of components that were recently
the topic of a lengthy thread. This is labelled "Mockingboard" from Sweet
Microsystems, and dated 1983. Unfortunately, it appears to be missing its
resident EPROM, so I doubt it's much more than a pair of 6522's and a pair of
ay3-8913's, plus a couple of LM386 audio amp's.
Does anyone know anything specific about this board? What's its claim to fame?
Has anybody got either the EPROM contents, manuals, software, or a desire for
this board?
Dick
6:08 p.m.
New subject: Apple ][-series sound board??
As I remember the board shipped with at least one empty socket. That
socket contained some text > speach code which was an additional option.
At the time it was the only way to play SkyFox...
George
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On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Richard Erlacher wrote:
It seems that I've got a board with a couple of
components that were recently
the topic of a lengthy thread. This is labelled "Mockingboard" from Sweet
Microsystems, and dated 1983. Unfortunately, it appears to be missing its
resident EPROM, so I doubt it's much more than a pair of 6522's and a pair of
ay3-8913's, plus a couple of LM386 audio amp's.
Does anyone know anything specific about this board? What's its claim to fame?
Has anybody got either the EPROM contents, manuals, software, or a desire for
this board?
Dick
6:39 p.m.
New subject: Apple ][-series sound board??
As I remember the board shipped with at least one
empty socket. That
socket contained some text > speach code which was an additional option.
At the time it was the only way to play SkyFox...
You could play it on a C64 ;-)
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6:55 p.m.
New subject: Apple ][-series sound board??
Ahhh yes...
But I remember buying Skyfox just to hear what the mockingboard could
do. Anybody remember if any other software written for the Apple][ took
advantage of one of the first sound cards?
George Rachor
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Hillsboro, Oregon http://rachors.com
United States of America Amateur Radio : KD7DCX
On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
As I remember
the board shipped with at least one empty socket. That
socket contained some text > speach code which was an additional option.
At the time it was the only way to play SkyFox...
You could play it on a C64 ;-)
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16 Nov
16 Nov
12:35 a.m.
New subject: Apple ][-series sound board??
On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, George Leo Rachor Jr. wrote:
But I remember buying Skyfox just to hear what the
mockingboard could
do. Anybody remember if any other software written for the Apple][
took advantage of one of the first sound cards?
I can't remember anything besides Ultima. A lot of games probably have
the option but since I never had a Mockingboard back then I never really
paid attention.
While the Mockingboard would surely qualify as an example of an early
sound card, I wouldn't class it as "one of the first". There were sound
boards for S-100 systems circa 1976-1977. One card in my collection that
is a good example is the Sound Effects 100. It has I believe three of
them General Instruments sound chips on it. I have at least one other
S-100 sound card. I believe Solid State Music started out as a company
that made S-100 sound cards.
And then wasn't there also a sound card for the PDP-11 circa the early
1970s?
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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3:12 a.m.
New subject: Apple ][-series sound board??
But I remember buying Skyfox just to hear what the
mockingboard could
do. Anybody remember if any other software written for the Apple][ took
advantage of one of the first sound cards?
I think Music Construction Set and some of the Ultimas did.
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3:50 a.m.
New subject: Apple ][-series sound board??
Cameron Kaiser wrote:
But I remember
buying Skyfox just to hear what the mockingboard could
do. Anybody remember if any other software written for the Apple][ took
advantage of one of the first sound cards?
I think Music Construction Set and some of the Ultimas did.
4:15 a.m.
New subject: Apple ][-series sound board??
What's an Ultima?
Dick
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From: "James B. DiGriz" <jbdigriz(a)dragonsweb.org>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: Apple ][-series sound board??
Cameron Kaiser wrote:
But I
remember buying Skyfox just to hear what the mockingboard could
do. Anybody remember if any other software written for the Apple][ took
advantage of one of the first sound cards?
I think Music Construction Set and some of the Ultimas did.
5:03 a.m.
New subject: Apple ][-series sound board??
mmmmm.... Fantasy Role-playing games made by Richard Garriott,
a.k.a. Lord British. who then founded the used-to-be-cool-company name Origin
Systems. Which has been assimilated by another used-to-be-cool-company
name Electronic Arts. Richard Gariott has gone onto form a new company...
but I can't remember its name...
The games had tons of places to explore, lots of monsters and dungeons.
And you had to write *pages and pages* of notes to keep track of the people
you talked to and what they said. Oh and there was the dungeon mapping...
many many many hours has been given unto the Ultima.
What's an Ultima?
Dick
> Cameron Kaiser wrote:
> > I think Music Construction Set and some of the Ultimas did.
> >
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3:55 a.m.
New subject: Apple ][-series sound board??
Cameron Kaiser wrote:
I acquire a IIe not too long ago and I'm interested in learning this
too. Don't have a sound card for it yet, though.
jbdigriz
But I remember
buying Skyfox just to hear what the mockingboard could
do. Anybody remember if any other software written for the Apple][ took
advantage of one of the first sound cards?
I think Music Construction Set and some of the Ultimas did.
4:31 a.m.
New subject: single-board Z80 add-on for Apple][ types
Anothr thing I found among the Apple stuff in this last haul is a Z80 card with
the required extra 16K DRAM on board that's apparently made by Franklin
Computer. It's labelled ACE 80. That's the first one I've seen with the
extra
DRAM block on board.
It also has an EPROM and a Z80 CTC, the latter of which I don't remember seeing
on other Z80 boards for the Apple][ series. Has anyone tried this thing out in
a normal Apple or is it limited to use in a Franklin clone?
Dick
7:13 a.m.
New subject: Apple ][-series sound board??
>But I
remember buying Skyfox just to hear what the mockingboard could
>do. Anybody remember if any other software written for the Apple][ took
>advantage of one of the first sound cards?
I acquire a IIe not too long ago and I'm interested in learning this
too. Don't have a sound card for it yet, though.
12:30 a.m.
New subject: Apple ][-series sound board??
On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Richard Erlacher wrote:
It seems that I've got a board with a couple of
components that were
recently the topic of a lengthy thread. This is labelled
"Mockingboard" from Sweet Microsystems, and dated 1983.
Unfortunately, it appears to be missing its resident EPROM, so I doubt
it's much more than a pair of 6522's and a pair of ay3-8913's, plus a
couple of LM386 audio amp's.
Does anyone know anything specific about this board? What's its claim
to fame?
Has anybody got either the EPROM contents, manuals, software, or a
desire for this board?
It's a multiple voice sound card for the Apple ][. Some software
supported it, most significantly the Ultima series (Ultima II or III and
onwards).
I think it sported 3 voices, though there may have been more.
I have at least one of these. I believe I have the software...somewhere.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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11:38 a.m.
New subject: Apple ][-series sound board??
it's an apple sound board.
At 08:28 PM 11/15/01 -0700, you wrote:
It seems that I've got a board with a couple of
components that were recently
the topic of a lengthy thread. This is labelled "Mockingboard" from Sweet
Microsystems, and dated 1983. Unfortunately, it appears to be missing its
resident EPROM, so I doubt it's much more than a pair of 6522's and a pair of
ay3-8913's, plus a couple of LM386 audio amp's.
Does anyone know anything specific about this board? What's its claim to
fame?
Has anybody got either the EPROM contents, manuals, software, or a desire for
this board?
Dick
2:49 a.m.
At 12:23 AM 11/16/2001 +0000, Tony wrote:
If you want to know why I did this, think about :
1) Who do you associate with apples (the fruit, not the computer)
2) When was he born
3) Some of us celebrate his birthday rather than another event (possibly
birthday-related) on the same date :-).
My first guess was Alan Mathison Turing, born 23 June 1912,
who died due to cyanide contamination on an apple he was eating.
Newton's Day is December 25, the date of his birth in 1642.
What I'd really like is one of the clones of "his" apple tree.
I hear they've been distributed far and wide, and are growing
all over the world.
- John
2:51 p.m.
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17 Nov
17 Nov
10:04 a.m.
Tony Duell wrote:
Unfortunately, HP calculators take considerably more
power than this
little Texet, so I've not managed to run one of those of an apple :-(
Create an array with more of them in parallel?
Tony Duell wrote:
>
> >
> > At 12:23 AM 11/16/2001 +0000, Tony wrote:
> > >If you want to know why I did this, think about :
> > >1) Who do you associate with apples (the fruit, not the computer)
> > >2) When was he born
> > >3) Some of us celebrate his birthday rather than another event (possibly
> > >birthday-related) on the same date :-).
> >
> > My first guess was Alan Mathison Turing, born 23 June 1912,
> > who died due to cyanide contamination on an apple he was eating.
>
> Interesting guess. No, not this time, though...
>
> >
> > Newton's Day is December 25, the date of his birth in 1642.
>
> Exactly... :-)
>
> The reason for the calculator run off the apple is that HPCC (UK HP
> calculator club, and a general meeting place of eccentrics :-)) has
> decided to do things associated with Newton (anything even remotely
> associated with Newton) this year. Running a calculator off an apple
> seemed somewhat appropriate.
>
Unfortunately, HP calculators take considerably more
power than this
little Texet, so I've not managed to run one of those of an apple :-(
>
> -tony
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