31 Oct
1998
31 Oct
'98
7:10 a.m.
On Tue, 27 Oct 1998, CLASSICCMP(a)trailing-edge.com wrote:
] To: classiccmp(a)u.WASHINGTON.EDU
] Subject: 8 inch floppies on PC's (was: TRS-80 Model II stuff!)
] Message-ID: <981027110530.222003f4(a)trailing-edge.com>
]
] >...
] > I can serial port the machines togethet but, I have no idea how
] > to read off all the sectors of the 8 inches.
]
] This is a question that has been dealt with very thoroughly in the
] past.
]
] Sydex (http://www.sydex.com/) has some very excellent software
] available for dealing with "foreign" floppy formats, and can deal
] with many (but not all) 8" floppy formats. Instead of going into
] ...
If you are referring to teledisk, it is worth noting that they no
longer offer a single-user non-commercial license; they stopped
offerring it as shareware in 1991, and is now solely a commercial
product with a licensing fee of $150. The shareware version that
can still be found out there is now "warez" - illegal, copyable
only by pimply-faced HaKkErZ with bad breath and no morals. :-/
I exchanged e-mail with them recently about this, and though they
were polite, they refused to consider licensing it for less than
their stated price.
Anybody know of any reasonable alternatives, for those of us that
are hampered by rules against theft? I suppose I'll eventually
write my own, but my schedule looks pretty well jammed clear into
the next millenium.
] Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com
] Trailing Edge Technology Voice: 301-767-5917
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] Bethesda, MD, USA 20817
Cheers,
Bill.
31 Oct
31 Oct
8:22 a.m.
Bill Yakowenko wrote:
If you are referring to teledisk, it is worth noting
that they no
longer offer a single-user non-commercial license; they stopped
offerring it as shareware in 1991, and is now solely a commercial
product with a licensing fee of $150. The shareware version that
can still be found out there is now "warez" - illegal, copyable
only by pimply-faced HaKkErZ with bad breath and no morals. :-/
Hey, I don't have pimples <g>
I exchanged e-mail with them recently about this, and
though they
were polite, they refused to consider licensing it for less than
their stated price.
Really nice since they got their start by everyone else paying their way for
distribution, marketing and testing back in the BBS days. The makers of Telix
communications are just as bad, if they're even still around, just as the
makers of ProComm (DataStorm?) are to this day.
Anybody know of any reasonable alternatives, for those
of us that
are hampered by rules against theft? I suppose I'll eventually
write my own, but my schedule looks pretty well jammed clear into
the next millenium.
My guess is that you don't use Windows and that you don't want one of the
older shareware Teledisks?
12:23 p.m.
On Sat, 31 Oct 1998, Bill Yakowenko wrote:
I exchanged e-mail with them recently about this, and
though they
were polite, they refused to consider licensing it for less than
their stated price.
Anybody know of any reasonable alternatives, for those of us that
are hampered by rules against theft? I suppose I'll eventually
write my own, but my schedule looks pretty well jammed clear into
the next millenium.
If you haven't tried this yet, and if applicable, ask them if they'd
entertain the thought of selling a cheaper license with no support.
There's another program out there that I hear has a few more formats than
Teledisk has. I thinks its called Xenocopy. I believe its still
available.
Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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2:47 p.m.
New subject: XenoCopy-PC (Was: teledisk (was: 8 in on PC's (was: TRS-80 II...
On Sat, 31 Oct 1998, Sam Ismail wrote:
There's another program out there that I hear has
a few more formats than
Teledisk has. I thinks its called Xenocopy. I believe its still
available.
I usually feel strongly about the ethics of advertising on a mailing
list, but since you DID bring it up :-)
XenoCopy-PC IS still available, although current sales have declined a bit
since the peak :-( Currently at 400 formats, out of an estimated 2500
mutually incompatible disk formats. The majority of the formats are
various CP/M formats, plus some variant MS-DOS formats, some "MS
stand-alone Basic", some P-system, etc. Unfortunately, (going back to the
beginning of this thread), I do NOT handle TRS-80 Model II TRS-DOS,
although I handle some of the CP/Ms that were available for it, such as
Pickles and Trout.
$79.95 +S/H + Sales tax if in Calif.
If you have a legitimate copy of a XenoSoft version, and are an active
participant of this list, send the original disk and I'll re-record it
with a more current version for free.
If you have a COMPLETE copy from a certain disreputable publisher, $20 to
upgrade to a legal copy.
The "raw sector content / ignore the file system mode" remains undocumented
and unsupported. Abandon all hope ye who use ALT or CTRL while pressing
the F7 in the select files screen. We will deny all knowledge.
BTW, the Epson Geneva PX-8 diskettes that I've seen were 40 track 3.5"
(at 67 TPI). Readable using a 720K (135 TPI) drive (plus XenoCopy-PC or
equivalent software :-), but not entirely reliable to write to.
Other colleagues and participants in the specialty:
MicroSolutions seems to have abandoned Uniform.
Has anybody heard from Mark Graybill? of Intersecting Concepts/Media Master?
Mike Gingel (Hypersoft) had a format conversion program that ran under
Model I and III TRS-DOS and derivatives. Anyone heard from him lately?
--
Fred Cisin cisin(a)xenosoft.com
XenoSoft http://www.xenosoft.com
2210 Sixth St. (510) 644-9366
Berkeley, CA 94710-2219
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