20 Dec
2004
20 Dec
'04
7:49 p.m.
Ok, I have looked around in the documents for Angelfire, at other sites
and I am still having problems getting this..
<a href="download/RockScissorPaper.dmg">RockScissorPaper</a>
trys to download RockScissorsPaper.HTML when I click it (the html I
actually get
is angelfire's 404 page)
phhht.
What is the "right" way to make a file available on my web page?
20 Dec
20 Dec
8:18 p.m.
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:49:16 -0800, Ron Hudson <ron.hudson(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Ok, I have looked around in the documents for Angelfire, at other sites
and I am still having problems getting this..
<a href="download/RockScissorPaper.dmg">RockScissorPaper</a>
RockScissorPaper.dmg or RockScissorsPaper.HTML?
vax, 9000
trys to download RockScissorsPaper.HTML when I click
it (the html I
actually get
is angelfire's 404 page)
phhht.
What is the "right" way to make a file available on my web page?
11:30 p.m.
On Dec 20, 2004, at 6:18 PM, 9000 VAX wrote:
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:49:16 -0800, Ron Hudson
<ron.hudson(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
no, really, I put .dmg (I checked it 3 times)
Ok, I have looked around in the documents for Angelfire, at other
sites
and I am still having problems getting this..
<a href="download/RockScissorPaper.dmg">RockScissorPaper</a>
RockScissorPaper.dmg or RockScissorsPaper.HTML?
vax, 9000
trys to download RockScissorsPaper.HTML when I
click it (the html I
actually get
is angelfire's 404 page)
phhht.
What is the "right" way to make a file available on my web page?
11:47 p.m.
On Dec 20, 2004, at 9:35 PM, John Allain wrote:
It's likely not in the directory where you thought
it was.
It's in a subdirectory of the the directory where the INDEX.HTML named
downloads
thus "downloads/RockScissorsPaper.dmg"
The website is:
http://www.angelfire.com/mac2/pentaminogroup/
21 Dec
21 Dec
12:12 a.m.
On Mon, 2004-12-20 at 21:47 -0800, Ron Hudson wrote:
On Dec 20, 2004, at 9:35 PM, John Allain wrote:
did just download
http://www.angelfire.com/mac2/pentaminogroup/downloads/RockScissorsPaper.dmg
Don't have my alpha up (power issue) so I can't check if the file was
good but at least it was found.
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It's likely not in the directory where you
thought it was.
It's in a subdirectory of the the directory where the INDEX.HTML named
downloads
thus "downloads/RockScissorsPaper.dmg"
The website is:
http://www.angelfire.com/mac2/pentaminogroup/ 
5:21 a.m.
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:47:39 -0800, Ron Hudson <ron.hudson(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On Dec 20, 2004, at 9:35 PM, John Allain wrote:
Just checking, in the original post you said
<a href="download/RockScissorPaper.dmg">RockScissorPaper</a>
Should that not be downloads.
Dan
It's likely not in the directory where you
thought it was.
It's in a subdirectory of the the directory where the INDEX.HTML named
downloads
thus "downloads/RockScissorsPaper.dmg"
The website is:
http://www.angelfire.com/mac2/pentaminogroup/
9:41 a.m.
On Dec 21, 2004, at 3:21 AM, Dan Williams wrote:
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:47:39 -0800, Ron Hudson
<ron.hudson(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Yes it should... I think the post is wrong, I'll check the code on the
site...yup it's "downloads" on the site.
OOh lookie here... I just fired up Microsoft Internet Explorer and
tried my site, it gets .dmg instead of .html !!!!!
Looks like a bug report goes to Apple for Safari! Gah! I hate Explorer!
I wonder if firefox gets it right...
On Dec 20, 2004, at 9:35 PM, John Allain wrote:
Just checking, in the original post you said
<a href="download/RockScissorPaper.dmg">RockScissorPaper</a>
Should that not be downloads. It's likely not in the directory where you
thought it was.
It's in a subdirectory of the the directory where the INDEX.HTML named
downloads
thus "downloads/RockScissorsPaper.dmg"
The website is:
http://www.angelfire.com/mac2/pentaminogroup/
Dan
10:08 a.m.
On Tue, 2004-12-21 at 07:41 -0800, Ron Hudson wrote:
OOh lookie here... I just fired up Microsoft Internet
Explorer and
tried my site, it gets .dmg instead of .html !!!!!
Looks like a bug report goes to Apple for Safari! Gah! I hate Explorer!
I wonder if firefox gets it right...
mime type bug?
IE I believe doesn't follow the spec and treats the file extension as
authorative over the mime type (good ol' MS), whereas other browsers do
work to the spec and obey the mime type. So if the server's sending a
mime type of html for that dmg file (because it's incorrectly
configured) then it's going to cause strange problems at the client
side.
Given the amount of pop-up ads, http redirects and other crud going on
with angelfire I'd recommend you move your web content to a different
provider though! Yuck :-(
Trying to download the file from the command line via wget gives a 404
error along with "Cookie coming from www.angelfire.com attempted to set
domain to angelfire.lycos.com".
cheers
Jules
10:35 a.m.
On Dec 21, 2004, at 8:08 AM, Jules Richardson wrote:
On Tue, 2004-12-21 at 07:41 -0800, Ron Hudson wrote:
Can I put something in the <a href..> tag to change this?
OOh lookie here... I just fired up Microsoft
Internet Explorer and
tried my site, it gets .dmg instead of .html !!!!!
Looks like a bug report goes to Apple for Safari! Gah! I hate
Explorer!
I wonder if firefox gets it right...
mime type bug?
IE I believe doesn't follow the spec and treats the file extension as
authorative over the mime type (good ol' MS), whereas other browsers do
work to the spec and obey the mime type. So if the server's sending a
mime type of html for that dmg file (because it's incorrectly
configured) then it's going to cause strange problems at the client
side.
Given the amount of pop-up ads, http redirects and other crud going on
with angelfire I'd recommend you move your web content to a different
provider though! Yuck :-(
I guess you get what you pay for... I don't have any money for hosting
"GPL and free as in beer too" software.
Angelfire sells advertising so they can give web-sites away free, Tripod
and any other free places probably do the same...
Trying to download the file from the command line via wget gives a 404
error along with "Cookie coming from www.angelfire.com attempted to set
domain to angelfire.lycos.com".
Hmmm...
cheers
Jules
11:31 a.m.
On Tue, 2004-12-21 at 08:35 -0800, Ron Hudson wrote:
Don't you have an ISP who gives you free webspace? (Or is Angelfire an
ISP? Always thought they just did webspace though)
On Dec 21, 2004, at 8:08 AM, Jules Richardson wrote:
not according to http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html32.html#anchor
- it's purely server-side. I expect Angelfire do it deliberately to stop
people hosting illegal content (such as mp3 files, possibly renamed with
other extensions) on their sites.
On Tue, 2004-12-21 at 07:41 -0800, Ron Hudson
wrote:
Can I put something in the <a href..> tag to change this?
OOh lookie here... I just fired up Microsoft
Internet Explorer and
tried my site, it gets .dmg instead of .html !!!!!
Looks like a bug report goes to Apple for Safari! Gah! I hate
Explorer!
I wonder if firefox gets it right...
mime type bug? Given the
amount of pop-up ads, http redirects and other crud going on
with angelfire I'd recommend you move your web content to a different
provider though! Yuck :-(
I guess you get what you pay for... I don't have any money for hosting
"GPL and free as in beer too" software. Angelfire sells advertising so they can give web-sites
away free, Tripod
and any other free places probably do the same...
Well most ISPs over here give out free webspace with no ads and far more
bandwidth than the likes of Tripod...
cheers
J.
8:34 a.m.
Looks like everybody here so far can download it.
Some browsers may balk at the unknown file type.
Some browsers cache html in a way the if you make a
change to a file you may have to close and restart the
browser to see your changes.
9:19 a.m.
Please find a more appropriate forum for this.
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Ron Hudson wrote:
On Dec 20, 2004, at 9:35 PM, John Allain wrote:
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It's likely not in the directory where you
thought it was.
It's in a subdirectory of the the directory where the INDEX.HTML named
downloads
thus "downloads/RockScissorsPaper.dmg"
The website is:
http://www.angelfire.com/mac2/pentaminogroup/
9:44 a.m.
"General Discussion:On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
On Dec 21, 2004, at 7:19 AM, Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
Please find a more appropriate forum for this.
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Ron Hudson wrote:
On Dec 20, 2004, at 9:35 PM, John Allain wrote:
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It's likely not in the directory where you
thought it was.
It's in a subdirectory of the the directory where the INDEX.HTML named
downloads
thus "downloads/RockScissorsPaper.dmg"
The website is:
http://www.angelfire.com/mac2/pentaminogroup/
10:43 a.m.
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, Ron Hudson wrote:
"General Discussion:On-Topic and Off-Topic
Posts"
So shall I start talking about how hairy my ass is? I'm sure I can regale
you with tales that will stretch out over days, weeks, maybe even months.
Your call.
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On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 08:43:01 -0800 (PST), Vintage Computer Festival
<vcf(a)siconic.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, Ron Hudson wrote:
Can you leave it a couple of hours it's nearly time for dinner over
the water ;)
Dan
"General Discussion:On-Topic and Off-Topic
Posts"
So shall I start talking about how hairy my ass is? I'm sure I can regale
you with tales that will stretch out over days, weeks, maybe even months.
Your call.
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11:28 a.m.
On Dec 21, 2004, at 8:43 AM, Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, Ron Hudson wrote:
So, How hairy is it?
The question is how many people replied with help.
btw is your ass computerized?
"General Discussion:On-Topic and Off-Topic
Posts"
So shall I start talking about how hairy my ass is? I'm sure I can
regale
you with tales that will stretch out over days, weeks, maybe even
months.
Your call.
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11:39 a.m.
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, Ron Hudson wrote:
On Dec 21, 2004, at 8:43 AM, Vintage Computer Festival
wrote:
If you were to compare it to how inept you are at using Google, you'd get
an idea.
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On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, Ron Hudson wrote:
So, How hairy is it? "General Discussion:On-Topic and Off-Topic
Posts"
So shall I start talking about how hairy my ass is? I'm sure I can
regale
you with tales that will stretch out over days, weeks, maybe even
months.
1:23 p.m.
On Dec 21, 2004, at 9:39 AM, Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
If you were to compare it to how inept you are at using Google, you'd
get
an idea.
Bald as a baby...
Sellam, for your edification, Your right I had no clue -what- to google
in this case, but I went to websites where I knew files were directly
available for download, i examined the source, it looked
the same as what I had. I went to a source of information where MOST
people are helpful, I even
marked my subject as OFF TOPIC so those with sensitive eyes could avoid
offense. I read cctalk and
if I can help someone with a problem I help them regardless if their
request if off topic.
1:44 p.m.
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, Ron Hudson wrote:
Sellam, for your edification, Your right I had no clue
-what- to google
in this case, but I went to websites where I knew files were directly
available for download, i examined the source, it looked the same as
what I had. I went to a source of information where MOST people are
helpful, I even marked my subject as OFF TOPIC so those with sensitive
eyes could avoid offense. I read cctalk and if I can help someone with a
problem I help them regardless if their request if off topic.
You're telling me that in ALL the billions of pages of the WWW, you
couldn't find a group to which you could pose your question and get a good
answer? I find that RATHER disingenuous.
Or are you saying you lack the patience to find such a group, or if you
do, to then wait for an adequate answer like the rest of us?
My problem is that you are abusing the list with your numerous questions
that have nothing to do with what we're here to suggest. At least 3-4 in
the past month.
Might I make a suggestion? In the past, when I've exhausted all other
resources, I come to the list (as a last resort) and pose my question and
request OFF-LIST replies. It's momentarily intrusive, as opposed to
creating an entire thread that belongs in some other forum somewhere else
on the internet.
The list is certainly a great resource of highly intelligent people who
have expertise is a wide range of technical and otherwise subject areas,
but DON'T ABUSE IT.
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1:59 p.m.
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