16 Jul
1999
16 Jul
'99
5:41 a.m.
Joe Rigdon quoted someone (probably Jim Willing) as having written:
I'm not convinced that it is a Datamaster. The screen is too small, and the
screen bezel the wrong shape; the trim is the wrong colour (ok, maybe it's a BW
photo, but the trim on a System/23 isn't usually that dark that I know of).
And, as I said, System/23 is 5322, not 5051 or any of the other model numbers
we've been seeing here :-)
Joe also wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jul
1999, Joe wrote:
Ah! OK now I know what it is. What is it? I've never heard of one before.
It looks kind of like a Lisa
but has an attched keyboard and two 8" floppy drives. See
"http://205.217.140.132/pcmuseum/default_page2.htm". This is one of the
things from the guy that wants to sell his entire $25K collection.
Its commonly referred to as the System/23 "DataMaster". Geez, that idiot can't even get the model numbers
right!
Joe
At 08:03 PM 7/15/99 -0700, Rueben wrote:
>5051 Try 5020:
>
>http://www.gazetteonline.com/money/monp263.htm
>http://gallery.uunet.be/Christophe.Daeninck/cc06.htm
>
Well, the model number at the first URL (Thanks Reuben) is 5120 - so which is
correct?
I agree that the "5051" looks very like a "5120" - far more than it
looks like a
Datamaster.
So perhaps it is a 5110 derivative...
Philip.
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16 Jul
16 Jul
6:09 a.m.
On Fri, 16 Jul 1999 Philip.Belben(a)powertech.co.uk wrote:
Joe Rigdon quoted someone (probably Jim Willing) as
having written:
I'm not convinced that it is a Datamaster. The screen is too small, and the
screen bezel the wrong shape; the trim is the wrong colour (ok, maybe it's a BW
photo, but the trim on a System/23 isn't usually that dark that I know of).
And, as I said, System/23 is 5322, not 5051 or any of the other model numbers
we've been seeing here :-)
Hmmm... ok, based on the various pictures I think I'll concede that its
likely not a 'Datamaster'. One observation off to the side however...
Aside from the screen size and bezel, the rest of the chassis/keyboard
unit looks the same and I noted when I had the unit in my collection apart
that the monitor/bezel assembly is a removable module, so there may be
some common lineage between these two machines. (different option sets?)
Learning something new every day about curiously old things! B^}
(have we officially become 'computer archeologists' yet?)
-jim
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On Thu, 15
Jul 1999, Joe wrote:
Ah! OK now I know what it is. What is it? I've never heard of one before.
It looks kind of like a Lisa
but has an attched keyboard and two 8" floppy drives. See
"http://205.217.140.132/pcmuseum/default_page2.htm".
Its commonly referred to as the System/23 "DataMaster". At 08:03 PM 7/15/99 -0700, Rueben wrote:
>5051 Try 5020:
>
>http://www.gazetteonline.com/money/monp263.htm
>http://gallery.uunet.be/Christophe.Daeninck/cc06.htm
>
Well, the model number at the first URL (Thanks Reuben) is 5120 - so which is
correct?
I agree that the "5051" looks very like a "5120" - far more than it
looks like a
Datamaster.
So perhaps it is a 5110 derivative... >> Coming soon to www.computergarage.org - the
CBBS/NW on-line archives
>> Coming to VCF III (2-3 October 1999) - CBBS/NW
live!
9:50 a.m.
It doesn't look like the System 23 we have....
On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, James Willing wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 1999 Philip.Belben(a)powertech.co.uk
wrote:
M. K. Peirce
Rhode Island Computer Museum, Inc.
215 Shady Lea Road,
North Kingstown, RI 02852
"Casta est qui nemo rogavit."
- Ovid
Joe Rigdon quoted someone (probably Jim Willing)
as having written:
I'm not convinced that it is a Datamaster. The screen is too small, and the
screen bezel the wrong shape; the trim is the wrong colour (ok, maybe it's a BW
photo, but the trim on a System/23 isn't usually that dark that I know of).
And, as I said, System/23 is 5322, not 5051 or any of the other model numbers
we've been seeing here :-)
Hmmm... ok, based on the various pictures I think I'll concede that its
likely not a 'Datamaster'. One observation off to the side however...
Aside from the screen size and bezel, the rest of the chassis/keyboard
unit looks the same and I noted when I had the unit in my collection apart
that the monitor/bezel assembly is a removable module, so there may be
some common lineage between these two machines. (different option sets?)
Learning something new every day about curiously old things! B^}
(have we officially become 'computer archeologists' yet?)
-jim
---
jimw(a)computergarage.org
The Computer Garage - http://www.computergarage.org
Computer Garage Fax - (503) 646-0174
On Thu, 15
Jul 1999, Joe wrote:
> What is it? I've never heard of one before. It looks kind of like a Lisa
> but has an attched keyboard and two 8" floppy drives. See
> "http://205.217.140.132/pcmuseum/default_page2.htm".
Its commonly referred to as the System/23 "DataMaster".
Ah! OK now I know what it is. At 08:03 PM 7/15/99 -0700, Rueben wrote:
>5051 Try 5020:
>
>http://www.gazetteonline.com/money/monp263.htm
>http://gallery.uunet.be/Christophe.Daeninck/cc06.htm
>
Well, the model number at the first URL (Thanks Reuben) is 5120 - so which is
correct?
I agree that the "5051" looks very like a "5120" - far more than it
looks like a
Datamaster.
So perhaps it is a 5110 derivative... >> Coming soon to www.computergarage.org -
the CBBS/NW on-line archives
>> Coming to VCF III (2-3 October 1999) -
CBBS/NW live!
3:34 p.m.
On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, James Willing wrote:
Hmmm... ok, based on the various pictures I think
I'll concede that its
likely not a 'Datamaster'. One observation off to the side however...
Aside from the screen size and bezel, the rest of the chassis/keyboard
unit looks the same and I noted when I had the unit in my collection apart
that the monitor/bezel assembly is a removable module, so there may be
some common lineage between these two machines. (different option sets?)
Look at http://www.vintage.org for a shot of a DataMaster. The keyboard
tapers down to an acute angle. Note that the picture is reversed (the
drives actually go on the right size...don't know how that happened).
(have we officially become 'computer
archeologists' yet?)
Come to my warehouse and you will be :)
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8:18 a.m.
I'm not convinced that it is a Datamaster. The screen is too small, and the
screen bezel the wrong shape; the trim is the wrong colour (ok, maybe it's
a BW
photo, but the trim on a System/23 isn't usually
that dark that I know of).
And, as I said, System/23 is 5322, not 5051 or any of the other model numbers
we've been seeing here :-)
Well, the model number at the first URL (Thanks Reuben) is 5120 - so which is
correct?
I agree that the "5051" looks very like a "5120" - far more than it
looks
like a
Datamaster.
So perhaps it is a 5110 derivative...
Philip.
I think Philip is right, look at item number 65 (IBM) it list as a 5110-3
http://www.davinsystems.com/pcmuseum/antiques.htm
Reuben
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