Send cctalk mailing list submissions to cctalk at classiccmp.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cctalk-request at classiccmp.org You can reach the person managing the list at cctalk-owner at classiccmp.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of cctalk digest..." Today's Topics: 1. (John Ames) 2. Re: (Paul Koning) 3. Re: (Jon Elson) 4. Re: KMC11/DMC11 folllow up (Dave Mitton) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2022 10:20:25 -0800 From: John Ames <commodorejohn at gmail.com> To: cclist at sydex.com Cc: cctalk at classiccmp.org Message-ID: <CABCBCvP8SX_1rB3FXVxZuXx1SUFTfiJBTqePd_SZiNeReX7PEw at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I think "witch settings" is my new preferred term for this. They're certainly mysterious and arcane enough. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2022 13:30:33 -0500 From: Paul Koning <paulkoning at comcast.net> To: John Ames <commodorejohn at gmail.com>, "cctalk at classiccmp.org" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Message-ID: <B8F20F9C-A329-4CED-9A00-036EAA8F4D1A at comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Nice. It would be a good term to apply to VMS SYSGEN parameters that are documented as having units "microfortnights". paul ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2022 16:49:42 -0600 From: Jon Elson <elson at pico-systems.com> To: Paul Koning via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Message-ID: <b0989916-7493-481d-7c45-a696ce5ecc31 at pico-systems.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed On 2/2/22 12:30, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: A footnote in the system config guide noted that ufortnights would be approximated at one second. Jon ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2022 14:31:27 -0500 From: Dave Mitton <dave at mitton.com> To: "cctech at classiccmp.org" <cctech at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: KMC11/DMC11 folllow up Message-ID: <20220202193130.24EDC4E775 at mx2.ezwind.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2022 18:46:46 -0500 From: Bob Smith <bobsmithofd at gmail.com> Subject: Re: KMC11/DMC11 folllow up Message-ID:

I?ve been watching this thread go by, and never finding time to contribute?. I started in Aug 1977 and finished the CommIOP products from Bob and Harvey. Clarise was no longer involved. It was basically done, I just did the QA on them and released it. I did find some bugs in the debugger we provided. I basically did KMC software support, on and off, going forward. When the KMC-B came out (I think Remi did that) I rev?ed the tools. I also did a KMC Tools package for VMS. I tossed into that package a VMS line printer driver, I wrote as an example and POC, that ran multiples LP11s at significantly better speed. We ran that in our lab. The MIT LCS lab loved that. My memory is weak on things like the ?DMX? and other things that CSS did. The Lab Products group built some successful data collection products around the KMC. Attempts in the Comms HW group to do an updated UNIBUS DH never got off the ground. We (NAC) did pitch the idea of using the CommIOP-DZ to VMS, as a way to off-load character terminal loads, and they would have nothing to do with it. For whatever reasons, they did not like the idea of smart devices. That led to the attempt to build a ?universal? terminal concentrator based on an 11 networked into the system. That project was complicated by what it tried to integrate, and took too long to build. It was overtaken by the simpler LAT based products that DEC went forward with. George Conant, Bob Rosenbaum, and Pete Nesbeda left the company and founded Xyplex that fielded successful products in this space. I could go on, but ? I do have copies of the KMC Tools doc and maybe the CommIOPs, but no KMC hw docs. Dave. Sent from Mail for Windows