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So to be clear, I am agreeing with the position that
one can have
Windows outside of a GUI (and that one can have a GUI that lacks
windows, such as a CAD program), but in the mind of the masses, GUIs
== windows.
-ethan
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And of course the mouse is irrelevant to this tiresome argument as well,
since it was quite commonly used in plain old text-mode single-tasking
non-windowed DOS (which could of course also have windows, multi-task
and display graphics, so I guess DOS WAS a GUI after all...)
Sheesh!
The OP said all we need to know with "I was going by the *popular* definition
of GUI/Windowed environment, not the strict one."
Speaking of CAD, I remember being blown away by an early demo of
AutoCAD running on an XT with two monitors; an MGA for the
commands, etc. and a CGA (or was it an EGA) for the drawing.
Of course there were $$$ boxes that could do this as well, but on
a lowly XT? I was impressed (didn't take much in those days).
m