I have a couple of MicroVAX 3800's that became part of my collection of space heaters during the Y2K period. It amazes me these machines still power up and boot VMS. The date these machines were purchased was sometime in 1989. Both are well equipped and came from a production environment. They gathered process data almost non stop for 10 years. What a perspective correction... I have a C-Itoh CIT-220+ attached to the console port, 12 inch amber screen, no mouse. Pays sometimes to know where we have all been from, makes me feel a bit aged.. Dan @ Butler, PA