18 Jul
2012
18 Jul
'12
9:49 p.m.
Hi there!
I know it's not as interesting as non-Intel-based stuff, but I just picked up an
ex-NASA ThinkPad 760XD and thought I'd poke at it a while given it's connection to
the Shuttle Program.
Does anyone know anything about these older IBM ThinkPads? This one came to me missing
it's battery and hard drive/caddy assembly. The battery's not so big a deal, but
finding the right hard drive and caddy has been pain. I'm a big fan of
"stock", so I did some research and looks like the "high-end" drive
for this thing back in the day was the 3.0GB IBM DLGA-23080. I'd also picked up an
after-market drive caddy, but as it turns out the DLGA-23080 is too tall for the caddy...
Anyone know if the DLGA-23080 had a special caddy, and where I might find the right one
that's genuine IBM? Or, am I completely mistaken and the "stock" 3.0GB
drive for the ThinkPad 760XD is a different model? I can't find a good FRU list
anywhere...
Anyway, many, many thanks in advance for the help!!
-Ben
18 Jul
18 Jul
11:34 p.m.
Using www.pchub.com the correct adapter for the 760XD is :
http://www.pchub.com/uph/laptop/38-38477-513/IBM-Thinkpad-760XD-9546-A9E-HD…
$7.89 free shipping for the holder, you still need a drive.
Cover says 1.2GB.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Benjamin Huntsman" <BHuntsman at mail2.cu-portland.edu>
To: "On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 9:49 PM
Subject: IBM ThinkPad 760XD
19 Jul
19 Jul
12:53 p.m.
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012, Benjamin Huntsman wrote:
Hi there!
I know it's not as interesting as non-Intel-based stuff, but I just
picked up an ex-NASA ThinkPad 760XD and thought I'd poke at it a while
given it's connection to the Shuttle Program.
Does anyone know anything about these older IBM ThinkPads? This one
came to me missing it's battery and hard drive/caddy assembly. The
battery's not so big a deal, but finding the right hard drive and caddy
has been pain. I'm a big fan of "stock", so I did some research and
looks like the "high-end" drive for this thing back in the day was the
3.0GB IBM DLGA-23080. I'd also picked up an after-market drive caddy,
but as it turns out the DLGA-23080 is too tall for the caddy... Anyone
know if the DLGA-23080 had a special caddy, and where I might find the
right one that's genuine IBM? Or, am I completely mistaken and the
"stock" 3.0GB drive for the ThinkPad 760XD is a different model? I
can't find a good FRU list anywhere...
It could be IBM made several models of 3GB Travelstar drives, but I'm not
that familiar with the 3GB size drives. The 3GB drives were an
intermediate consumer-size drive (meaning they didn't use the full
capacity of the platters) and we skipped over them when going from 1-2GB
to 4GB. I do have a now non-functional 3GB engineering sample/prototype
3GB drive laying around that I can measure if that would be helpful.
Was the machine just limited to 9.5mm high drives instead of 12.5mm? 9.5mm
are pretty easy to find on the second hand market, and if you want to stay
semi-original, a 4GB Travelstar (IBM/Hitachi) was certainly available in a
9.5mm height. Going for maximum capacity, two platter 160GB and 320GB
drives were available in 2.5" parallel ATA, but stocks are now beginning
to run low and they are currently somewhat expensive when compared with
larger SATA drives. Due to BIOS limitations, large drives also wouldn't
work well with older operating systems without using Diskmanager or some
other sort of DDO (dynamic drive overlay).
1:31 p.m.
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012, Benjamin Huntsman wrote:
I'm a big fan of "stock", so I did some
research and looks like the
"high-end" drive for this thing back in the day was the 3.0GB IBM
DLGA-23080. I'd also picked up an after-market drive caddy, but as it
turns out the DLGA-23080 is too tall for the caddy... Anyone know if
the DLGA-23080 had a special caddy, and where I might find the right one
that's genuine IBM? Or, am I completely mistaken and the "stock" 3.0GB
drive for the ThinkPad 760XD is a different model? I can't find a good
FRU list anywhere...
According to the datasheet, the DLGA-23080 is a 17mm high drive, which
certainly won't fit very many laptops. Only a few manufacturers had
machines which would accept these type of "enterprise" drives. Because of
the large number of platters (typically 4) I can't recommend these at all
for use today due to reliability issues.
4GB drives appear to have become somewhat scarce, but a quick search
turned up some of these IBM FRUs and model numbers. Although they might
not have been original to that specific machine, if you want to just find
a drive that "works" and is somewhat reliable, these series drives might
be a place to start. I think all of these are 9.5mm or 12.5mm, but I've
not verified that so you'll need to double check.
Travelstar 6GB 07N5650 DJSA-210
Travelstar 6GB 31L9764 DARA-206000
ASM P/N 05K9221
FRU P/N 05K9227
Travelstar 10GB 07N6453 DJSA-210
ASM P/N 08K9504
FRU P/N 08K9508
Travelstar 12GB 059223 DJSA-220
Travelstar 12GB 31L9749 DARA-212000
ASM P/N 05K9223
FRU P/N 05K9229
Travelstar 20GB 07N6017 DJSA-220
ASM P/N 27L3426
FRU P/N 27L3427
Travelstar 20GB 07N6017 DJSA-220
ASM P/N 27L4074
FRU P/N 27L4075
1:38 p.m.
If I'm not mistaken, I've put 20 and 40 gb drives on these 760 notebooks
and they work fine.
---
Enviado do meu Motorola PT550
Meu site: http://www.tabalabs.com.br
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tothwolf" <tothwolf at concentric.net>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: IBM ThinkPad 760XD
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012, Benjamin Huntsman wrote:
I'm a big fan of "stock", so I did
some research and looks like the
"high-end" drive for this thing back in the day was the 3.0GB IBM
DLGA-23080. I'd also picked up an after-market drive caddy, but as it
turns out the DLGA-23080 is too tall for the caddy... Anyone know if the
DLGA-23080 had a special caddy, and where I might find the right one
that's genuine IBM? Or, am I completely mistaken and the "stock" 3.0GB
drive for the ThinkPad 760XD is a different model? I can't find a good
FRU list anywhere...
According to the datasheet, the DLGA-23080 is a 17mm high drive, which
certainly won't fit very many laptops. Only a few manufacturers had
machines which would accept these type of "enterprise" drives. Because of
the large number of platters (typically 4) I can't recommend these at all
for use today due to reliability issues.
4GB drives appear to have become somewhat scarce, but a quick search
turned up some of these IBM FRUs and model numbers. Although they might
not have been original to that specific machine, if you want to just find
a drive that "works" and is somewhat reliable, these series drives might
be a place to start. I think all of these are 9.5mm or 12.5mm, but I've
not verified that so you'll need to double check.
Travelstar 6GB 07N5650 DJSA-210
Travelstar 6GB 31L9764 DARA-206000
ASM P/N 05K9221
FRU P/N 05K9227
Travelstar 10GB 07N6453 DJSA-210
ASM P/N 08K9504
FRU P/N 08K9508
Travelstar 12GB 059223 DJSA-220
Travelstar 12GB 31L9749 DARA-212000
ASM P/N 05K9223
FRU P/N 05K9229
Travelstar 20GB 07N6017 DJSA-220
ASM P/N 27L3426
FRU P/N 27L3427
Travelstar 20GB 07N6017 DJSA-220
ASM P/N 27L4074
FRU P/N 27L4075
26 Jul
26 Jul
11:02 p.m.
Many thanks to all who responded, especially with the links to a few very useful sites
I'd not seen before!
For the record, in case anyone's interested, I did track down the "official"
scoop:
The "correct" 3.0GB drive for the 760XD is FRU 45H8791, and the assembly PN is
45H8790.
Inside the caddy, the drive is an IBM model DLGA-23080, PN 46H6123, FRU 73H6430.
The whole assembly is thicker than the usual caddy, but does indeed fit correctly.
Thanks again!
-Ben
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Alexandre Souza - Listas [pu1bzz.listas at gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 10:38 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: IBM ThinkPad 760XD
If I'm not mistaken, I've put 20 and 40 gb drives on these 760 notebooks
and they work fine.
---
Enviado do meu Motorola PT550
Meu site: http://www.tabalabs.com.br
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tothwolf" <tothwolf at concentric.net>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: IBM ThinkPad 760XD
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012, Benjamin Huntsman wrote:
I'm a big fan of "stock", so I did
some research and looks like the
"high-end" drive for this thing back in the day was the 3.0GB IBM
DLGA-23080. I'd also picked up an after-market drive caddy, but as it
turns out the DLGA-23080 is too tall for the caddy... Anyone know if the
DLGA-23080 had a special caddy, and where I might find the right one
that's genuine IBM? Or, am I completely mistaken and the "stock" 3.0GB
drive for the ThinkPad 760XD is a different model? I can't find a good
FRU list anywhere...
According to the datasheet, the DLGA-23080 is a 17mm high drive, which
certainly won't fit very many laptops. Only a few manufacturers had
machines which would accept these type of "enterprise" drives. Because of
the large number of platters (typically 4) I can't recommend these at all
for use today due to reliability issues.
4GB drives appear to have become somewhat scarce, but a quick search
turned up some of these IBM FRUs and model numbers. Although they might
not have been original to that specific machine, if you want to just find
a drive that "works" and is somewhat reliable, these series drives might
be a place to start. I think all of these are 9.5mm or 12.5mm, but I've
not verified that so you'll need to double check.
Travelstar 6GB 07N5650 DJSA-210
Travelstar 6GB 31L9764 DARA-206000
ASM P/N 05K9221
FRU P/N 05K9227
Travelstar 10GB 07N6453 DJSA-210
ASM P/N 08K9504
FRU P/N 08K9508
Travelstar 12GB 059223 DJSA-220
Travelstar 12GB 31L9749 DARA-212000
ASM P/N 05K9223
FRU P/N 05K9229
Travelstar 20GB 07N6017 DJSA-220
ASM P/N 27L3426
FRU P/N 27L3427
Travelstar 20GB 07N6017 DJSA-220
ASM P/N 27L4074
FRU P/N 27L4075
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