13 Mar
2009
13 Mar
'09
12:16 a.m.
Hi folks,
I tried to build and run adventure from Rick Murphy's website:
http://www.rickmurphy.net/adventure.html
I used the disk image from the page and booted my machine from it.
I was able to compile and link everything by means of COMPIL.BI and LOAD.BI.
When I want to start the game, I'm asked for the file locations. Then it
takes a few seconds (perhaps half a minute?) until the program tells me
about "Fatal error 8" - and that I should consult my "local wizard".
But
who's the local wizard?
On SIMH it seems to work.
At the moment, I would like to know if it's my machine and it's FPP-12
or the software (perhaps not expecting the presence of a real FPP-12?)
which has the problem.
SIMH doesn't have a FPP, so I cannot test it :-(
I successfully ran maindec-12-dafpa-a-pb (FPP-12 data test) on my
system. Compiling small FORTRAN IV programs und running them with the
FPP attached seems to be working correctly as well.
So are there any known problems?
Might there be any problems?
Is the adventure game tested with a real FPP-12?
Does anyone know an emulator with FPP-12?
My system configuration (abbreviated):
* PDP-8/e
* 32K memory
* TD8E DECTape controller
* RK8E RK05 controller
* Teletype
* Some serial ports for Kermit and dumprest
If anyone knows anything, please let me know!
It would be very good to be sure if I have a hardware problem or not.
Don't want to search for a phantom problem.
Best wishes,
Philipp :-)
13 Mar
13 Mar
12:36 a.m.
Sorry for the message.....
Just disconnected the FPP-12 - problem persists :-(
But my 8/e seems to be in working condition. I have no strange behavior.
Could try out some CPU maindecs (did so last year, without problems).
Best wishes,
Philipp
1:37 a.m.
At 08:36 PM 3/12/2009, Philipp Hachtmann wrote:
Sorry for the message.....
Just disconnected the FPP-12 - problem persists :-(
OK, well, that makes my last message less interesting.
But my 8/e seems to be in working condition. I have no
strange behavior.
Could try out some CPU maindecs (did so last year, without problems).
Do you have an EAE or any other funky stuff? Are you using the TD8E rom
with your TD8E?
What devices are you using for running ADVENT? If you have too many
handlers loaded, it may be falling over itself running out of memory.
-Rick
2:51 p.m.
I've been tooo stupid... My first message is still valid, disconnecting
the FPP makes the error go away. (It was my fault when I thought the
error persists without FPP!).
Ph
1:34 a.m.
At 08:16 PM 3/12/2009, Philipp Hachtmann wrote:
Hi folks,
I tried to build and run adventure from Rick Murphy's website:
http://www.rickmurphy.net/adventure.html
I used the disk image from the page and booted my machine from it.
I was able to compile and link everything by means of COMPIL.BI and
LOAD.BI.
When I want to start the game, I'm asked for the file locations. Then
it takes a few seconds (perhaps half a minute?) until the program
tells me about "Fatal error 8" - and that I should consult my "local
wizard". But who's the local wizard?
I may be as close as you'll get. :-)
"Fatal Error 8", usually means the database is corrupt. Look at
INITAD.FT for the "CALL BUG(8)" lines;
This specific error unfortunately means two different things.
One is triggered when the record being written to the database is past
the calculated record number. (Just past label 1020, 'IF (RECORD .GT.
FILSIZ) CALL BUG(8)".
The other is "LOCATION HAS COND BIT SET TWICE". That's definitely
something not calculating what was expected.
The other is just above label 1071, "IF(BITSET(LOC,K))CALL BUG(8)".
If the first is being hit, I don't understand what's happening. The
latter, however, calls a function (BITSET) that's some optimized FPP
code. There's a chance there's something there that works with the FRTS
emulator but not with a FPP-12.
On SIMH it seems to work.
Yup, since there's no FPP hardware.
Unfortunately, I don't have a real machine with a FPP-12 or FPP-8A so I
can't say if the code works on the real iron or not.
At the moment, I would like to know if it's my
machine and it's FPP-12
or the software (perhaps not expecting the presence of a real FPP-12?)
which has the problem.
SIMH doesn't have a FPP, so I cannot test it :-(
I successfully ran maindec-12-dafpa-a-pb (FPP-12 data test) on my
system. Compiling small FORTRAN IV programs und running them with the
FPP attached seems to be working correctly as well.
So are there any known problems?
Might there be any problems?
Is the adventure game tested with a real FPP-12?
Does anyone know an emulator with FPP-12?
My system configuration (abbreviated):
* PDP-8/e
* 32K memory
* TD8E DECTape controller
* RK8E RK05 controller
* Teletype
* Some serial ports for Kermit and dumprest
If anyone knows anything, please let me know!
It would be very good to be sure if I have a hardware problem or not.
Don't want to search for a phantom problem.
Best wishes,
Philipp :-)
What you could do to start is to figure which of the two bug(8)'s
you're hitting. Doing a simple edit to INITAD.FT and rebuilding will
tell me that, then we can go from there. The first one (at label 1020)
should have been a call to BUG(2).
Another thing you can do is to try it with the FPP-12 disabled.
To disable the FPP, change FRTS location 12621 from 6555 to 7200, then
try running your ADVENT.LD.
If that fixes it, it's pretty strong indication that the FPP isn't
matching the built-in emulator. That doesn't mean the FPP is broken,
unfortunately. I'd like to troubleshoot if possible - send me private
e-mail and we can try to discuss it.
-Rick
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