At 08:49 AM 7/14/97 BST, you wrote: Robotron 2084 was a video game (put out by Williams, I think). The story was that robots had taken over and were killing off mankind. You were man's last hope as a super-ized human, you could shoot the robots and save the people. You ran around doing just that. There were various types of naughty robots and a family (mom, dad, son, daughter) that you ran over (picked up?) to save. What made Robotron different from most games was that it used 2 joysticks, one for movement and one for firing. To be any good at the game, you had to be able to work them independently of each other. Spent a lot of quarters on that game. There were other 2-joystick games, including Sinistar (mine bombs to blow up Sinistar before it's completely built) and a spiderweb game which I forget the name of. --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/