Go to Compaq's website and click on the link about the new contract they just got for a machine with 12,000 Alpha's in it!! Kinda ticks me off, though, that while DEC did all the development work on this architecture, came up with something unique and technologically superior, the company that gets the credit for the big win is the same one that has made it's fortune cloning crappy IBM boxes and can't even make a laptop that goes three months before it has to back to the service department AGAIN....... Sorry. I'm the netadmin in an office where corporate policy sticks me with Armada laptops that need to go back for some sort of board replacement all the time. I'm on a first-name basis with the guy from Airborne..... it's gotten to the point where I figured out how they assign case numbers, and I can have the first six digits already written down before they start talking.....I have at least one a week go back. And some have gone in three or four times this past year! Paul Braun WD9GCO Cygnus Productions nerdware_nospam(a)laidbak.com