I guess the suprise is out (to those who inspected the headers)... The new machine has spamassassin and clamAV on it... primarily so that the moderator won't have to moderate spam. This will make my job (and the other list moderator helpers jobs) infinitely more bearable. It'll be nice to moderate about 150 emails a day instead of a thousand+. Also, when it's all done... look for some nice enhancements to the list archives. Jay