On Fri, 31 Jul 1998, Seth J. Morabito wrote: This is true. I heard this first hand from a contractor that I had hired to do some programming a couple years back. He wrote some software to control the signs in the BART stations. He told me a little bit about it, and I was surprised to learn they had such old beasts gainfully employed. Unfortunately, said guy turned out to be a total fricken flake/scam artist and I wouldn't call him if he was giving away a PDP/8i. So I wouldn't want to contact him to find out. However, if you want to talk to him, and you promise NOT TO MENTION THAT I REFERRED YOU, because I want to have absolutely nothing to do with this cretin ever again, you can go to his web page at http://www.tlcone.com (or .net). From there I would imagine you can e-mail him. His name is Emile Carter. He's at least personable, so he may want to talk to you about it if he's got the time, and perhaps refer you to someone at BART, but I wouldn't be surprised if he burned those bridges as well. Anyway, its a possible lead. Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ever onward. September 26 & 27...Vintage Computer Festival 2 See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details! [Last web page update: 07/26/98]