(quote) I was just typing a message into a web forum, hit the post reply button, and while I am waiting I realize, SHEESH, this is just an graphical upgrade of the 3270 CICS I was running 20 years ago. Except not as fast. (end quote) There are other differences: No viri. No pop-ups. No spam. No anonymous morons. No evil cookies dropped onto your machine, 3rd party or otherwise. No audio, just peace and (beep) quiet. Oh yeah; no graphics, no mouse, no point-and-click. If the speed bothers you, get a faster connection. I just wonder if improving the user interface to the point where monkeys can use it is an evolutionary step forward or backward.... -David Gari _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus